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Re: Gov workers say their shutdown out-of-office replies were forcibly changed

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Post by johnnyanmac » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 5:26 PM UTC

xp84 wrote: post #129

johnnyanmac wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>’m not a democrat or a republican, I’m not rooting for either one You clear are of you're rooting for your own Healthcare premiums to go up. This really isn't a left or right issue. Heck, this proportionately hurts red states more. Must be so tiring in office to try and defend people who actively wish for your destruction.

I’m not on Obamacare, so my premiums aren’t going up. Obamacare is also pretty terrible, since those plans always have worse networks than private insurance since those plans have shitty reimbursement rates. Anyone who can avoid Obamacare plans avoids them, and is smart to do so. One reason I don’t support the DNC is because Obamacare is such a shitty and compromised system, designed to help insurance companies maxim…

>designed to help insurance companies maximize their profits.

What Healthcare plan isn't going to help private insurance benefit? Medicare/caid already puts a trillion dollar in funding it, so this isn't isn't something that can be fully government funded with the US's current debt. They'll have to worn with existing companies on this. It's not an easy problem to solve.

The solution here is to get more progressive people into these seats so they get better deals and control the greed of private Healthcare, not just hold your hands up and say "both sides bad" and do nothing. Doing nothing only forwards the status quo, and the status quo ain't really great right now.

Isn't that a common Dem criticism? That we can't compromise and end up standing for nothing because every possible candidate has some small issue that makes t >the Democrats can’t convince anyone to vote for them because they are obsessed with draping themselves in the mantles of unpopular culture war issues

You're falling for the right wing spin. We still have Trump complaining about trans athletes as the government is shut down and somehow the democrats are focusing on the culture war? You're conflating internet culture wars with the DC politicians. Only one voter base has pushed this point and it's precisely to distract.

I'm on communities them "unsupportable"? I don't like that either. You don't make solutions without compromise.

like HN precisely to filter out thst bickering and focus on what's actually affecting my life.

Government has traditionally been horrible at establishing culture anyway. They can facilitate it, but it's down to the people to make do with the tools given.

Re: Gov workers say their shutdown out-of-office replies were forcibly changed

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Post by fragmede » Sun, Oct 05, 2025, 4:27 PM UTC

cosmicgadget wrote: post #130

fragmede wrote: post #126

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I mean, the OSC isn't some bunch of randoms who call themselves "official" for funsies. Violations of the Hatch Act fall under their jurisdiction. They're the ones that investigate violations. They put out a statement that says political messages (of a certain kind) are totally fine. This means, to me, that claiming "The official interpretation of the Hatch act was changed" isn't at all a stretch. The officials, the…

The judiciary interprets the law. As I said, you can narrowly say OSC is "official" and "interprets" the law, but it's a deceptive way to describe the situation. Hopefully we'll see another group successully claim standing for being harmed by Hatch Act violations. An honest way to describe the situation is "the Trump OSC has decided that Trump should investigate Trump and it is unclear if anyone else can sue for reli…

It feels off to frame this as a routine legal question when the branches themselves aren’t behaving routinely. The current executive has reduced the other branches to handmaidens of its will.

Re: Gov workers say their shutdown out-of-office replies were forcibly changed

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Post by immibis » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 4:40 PM UTC

Alupis wrote: post #40

mikeyouse wrote: post #31

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‘People should be lied to by the government out of political convenience’ is a theory I guess. Though not one I’d endorse. It’s equally true that “Senate republicans failed to put forth a spending CR that could attract 60 votes” or “Senate republicans failed to pass filibuster reform to only require 50 votes on spending measures.” Are equally true statements yet somehow they didn’t make the autoresponders. Weird.

Always finding a way to blame the Republicans... last time they were in the minority and were blamed for shutting down the government. Now they're in the majority and you still want to blame them for shutting down the government. To summarize, you want to blame the oppositition for not passing your flavor of a spending bill, ie. one that suits your politics. Elections have consequences - and the longer Democrats drag…

They control the government in all ways that it's possible to control the government. They *are* the government, so everything the government does is their fault, tautologically. We're not stupid (I hope).