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Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

doodaddy wrote: post #84

As an Olympus shooter this is good to know. But good gravy that troubleshooting path got expensive real fast. Replacing the laptop and the camera? Why not start by trying something other than Photos? It doesn’t even need to be a paid product; the Olympus software is free not to mention a good baseline since it - of all the applications - should be able to import photos without corrupting them. Edit to add: delete on…

My first thought was “software troubleshooting is a lot cheaper than hardware troubleshooting!” Maybe the author isn’t bound by the same economic realities as some of us are accustomed to.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by omnibrain »

hk1337 wrote: post #30

> Turns out “delete after import” was a huge mistake. That's a mistake no mater what application you're importing to, else we'll be graced with another blog post, "Darktable app Corrupts Photos". What's the purpose of RAW+jpg though? Seems rather redundant?

With SD cards relatively cheap I long thought about, why delete them at all. Just put them into a box after importing the images/when full. So you still have a physical backup.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by kccqzy »

mcflubbins wrote: post #95

What are some good Open Source / Self Hosted alternatives to Apple Photos (Desktop)? I pretty much keep my Mac Mini around solely to import photos from our phones, free up space on the phone, and backup the Photos DB. We like to go back and look at old photos from time to time too, and the feature that shows them on a map is a big one for us. Last time I looked (pre-COVID) there wasn't a lot of promising options, and…

I use and enjoy PhotoPrism. It's open source and self hosted. It has the map view. It accepts imports via WebDAV, or you can manage files completely manually without using the import feature.

It's strictly for looking and exploring old photos. It doesn't do photo editing (except metadata editing), nor do I expect it to.

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Post by tomalbrc »

MarkMarine wrote: post #121

I’ve been seeing this happen on older photos that had imported properly, and I just use my iPhone and view photos on my Mac and iPhone. Looking back, I’ve lost whole chunks of my photo library. It’s a bigger problem than I realized. I don’t have these backed up elsewhere.

You work in IT right? always backup

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by jcbe »

I have tried fairly persistently to make Apple Photos my primary photo management tool and I finally gave up recently. The app crashes repeatedly when I have it open—only occasionally until this year but the frequency has increased to the point that it no longer feels usable. A real shame. I’d rather stay in the ecosystem if I had the choice.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by ryandrake »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #120
egorfine wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd report it to Apple What's the point of it? It is well known in the industry they ignore bugreports. Also, this bug doesn't affect the majority of users, so it won't ever be fixed.

I worked on the Photos team a decade ago — some of what you're saying I can vouch for. If it is a rare occurrence, that lowers the priority of the bug. Data corruption though? That moves it to the top. I'll tell you a secret though that kind of pisses me off. If you have shipped with a bug, that automatically lowers the perceived priority as well. You know, as opposed to introducing a new bug in a new release. "We've…

> I'll tell you a secret though that kind of pisses me off. If you have shipped with a bug, that automatically lowers the perceived priority as well. You know, as opposed to introducing a new bug in a new release.

This mentality is all over BigTech: This bug didn't block release X-1, why should it block release X? So, it inevitably just sits in the backlog forever. If your releases are 90 days apart, any bug found has an average of 45 days to be fixed, or it ends up on the "we lived with it last time" list.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by Someone »

mentos wrote: post #81
deviation wrote: post #12

It seems to be an import pipeline bug. Photos does a lot of extra work on import (merging RAW+JPEG pairs, generating previews, database indexing, optional deletion), so my guess is a concurrency bug where a buffer gets reused or a file handle is closed before the copy finishes. Rare, nondeterministic corruption fits the profile.

Sounds like an argument for Apple to provide a new high-level media import framework?

Why? A new framework gets you new bugs instead of the old ones, but not necessarily fewer or less severe ones.

It’s more likely that things will be reversed: the old, battle-tested framework may have bugs, but it’s is less likely to have serious ones.

They should try to hunt down bugs in the existing code. A partial rewrite of parts that historically have many bugs may be in order, but a complete replacement? Unlikely to be an improvement.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by anal_reactor »

sholladay wrote: post #67
ChrisRR wrote: post #16

I feel like this is a URL that I don't want in my history

There is a very popular professional audio website called Gearspace that had a much spicier name for a long, long time. https://gearspace.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/mftc0g/ge...

I guess the reason why modern times feel so bland is because we all agree on the lowest common denominator, and then celebrate that as "iNcLuSiViTy". If anything you do has any personality, aka deviates from the standard workflow, it immediately gets a disadvantaged position on the free market.

It's like, we collectively prioritize efficiency over fun and then we wonder why life is not fun even though it is efficient.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by Romario77 »

sholladay wrote: post #67
ChrisRR wrote: post #16

I feel like this is a URL that I don't want in my history

There is a very popular professional audio website called Gearspace that had a much spicier name for a long, long time. https://gearspace.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/mftc0g/ge...

before stackoverflow there was expertsexchange.com and they were forced to add a hyphen to the name because people kept making fun of the expertSEXchange, it became experts-exchange.com

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

dmd wrote: post #74
deviation wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to hand wave-- but this feels industry standard IMO. I have a dozen PRs sitting unacknowledged and stale across a handful of FAANG (and other) repos, including Apple's. I start my first day @ Apple in a few weeks, so I ACK that my opinion might be a little biased here.

Maybe you can help bump FB13400242, a bug that is _literally_ going to kill people. (The bug is that to make an emergency call, even from lock screen, you're supposed to be able to squeeze buttons on either side of the phone. But it only works with the volume buttons on the left - the Action button didn't get supported, when that button was added. So now the rule for teaching a small child isn't just "squeeze both si…

A bug that has been reported that is down prioritized that then leads to killing people would be a pretty bad case for Apple when it came to court.
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