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Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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I'm sure it depends on how much laundry he is doing - his dryer is probably heated entirely by servers. He can then exhaust the remaining server heat through the dryer vent stack.

Keep going. I love dry humor.

Its dryer sheets soften the soul.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Cant you just request the ICANN’s zone files and have the canonical list of the day?

Avoiding GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out). This is why we have computer-variants of Library Science and Archeology, Forensic Science and a bunch of other advanced knowledge (not AI, mind you).

I don't see how this applies as its aggregating a bunch of stuff from random crawlers - if you want to crawl a list of actual domains that's generally considered the list of things that could resolve, so seems like a good starting place.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Well, I created my own domain index. I have not crawled every page inside domains, but it is not my goal. I have 1542766 domains. Might not be much, but it is an honest work. It is available as a github repo, so anybody that wants to start crawling has some initial data to kick off. Links https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

Cant you just request the ICANN’s zone files and have the canonical list of the day?

Any link list, or domain list is not worth much without any rating, or meta. I lead a hobby project, and I am not expert, so I provide ratings based on what kind of data pages provide (title, social, description), and my own manual voting system. It is not ideal, but it is something. Also I provide tags, so it is easily known what the domain provides, or domains can be filtered by tags.

I know that you cannot count and visit every domain, so the list will never be finished, but I am happy with the results.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Well, I created my own domain index. I have not crawled every page inside domains, but it is not my goal. I have 1542766 domains. Might not be much, but it is an honest work. It is available as a github repo, so anybody that wants to start crawling has some initial data to kick off. Links https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

What a nice project. What inspired this initially? FYI there's a broken link in your readme: https://rumca-js.github.io/internet full internet search

thanks, I replaced it with a other link demo

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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> The effect is most likely to occur when there are no obvious reasons for performing the task. Because expending effort to perform a useless or unenjoyable task, or experiencing unpleasant consequences in doing so, is cognitively inconsistent (see cognitive dissonance), people are assumed to shift their evaluations of the task in a positive direction to restore consistency. I’m not following you. https://dictionary.…

It's not limited to physical effort. Wikipedia's example has embarassment in place of effort; presumably, money could also work.

I interpreted to mean that using a search engine is “useless or unenjoyable, or experiencing unpleasant consequences...”, with attention given to the last two feelings. And I can't figure out what that has to do with people who like Kagi and why it’s wrong or irritating for them to do so.

Granted I’ve been annoyed by similar occurrences with other services, but not to the point of suspecting collusion between the service and the public like the GP comment did.

Searching on the web takes effort. I don’t think this sentiment is controversial. Especially not on HN.

But do you think that because/if searching on the web takes effort and because people have to pay for Kagi, they are compelled to exaggerate its usefulness in public to justify the cost?

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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Well I can't respond to everyone - I am the one running the search engine. And yes, it did crash today from load. Usage increased 20x this week vs last and I was totally unprepared. I don't know if that counts as a good launch or a bad one. For some reason in my head I imagined usage would be some slow steady ramp.

Thank you for those who tried it, and I'm sorry if you were one of the people it didn't perform for. As far as load goes this was the first day it truly had a "trial by fire".

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Is the common crawl usable for something like this? https://commoncrawl.org

I'm the creator of searcha.page and seek.ninja, those are the basis of my index. The biggest problem with ONLY using that is freshness. I've started my own crawling too, but for sure common crawl will backfill a TON of good pages. It's priceless and I would say common crawl should be any search engines starting point. I have 2 billion pages from common crawl! There were a lot more but I had to scrub them out due to resources. My native crawling is much more targeted and I'd be lucky to pull 100k but as long as my heuristics for choosing the right targets it will be very high value pulls.

Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room

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I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…

Why can't crawling be crowd sourced? It would solve ip rotation and spread the load

Common crawl sort of serves this function. I use it. It's a really good foundation.
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