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South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by tpm »

geeunits wrote: post #80
Bud wrote: post #61

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Uh, they were BUILDING the factory. Which was then going to provide hundreds of jobs to Americans. Seems hard to characterize this in any way other than calling it incredibly stupid.

Sorry but as a legal immigrant (O1b then Green Card) -- they can easily apply for legal status if there were no possible skilled workers available legally, and locally. My personal barometer calls this unacceptable after.... 10? 20 examples? Almost 500!

But they do not want to immigrate. They want to fly in, set up the factory, and fly back home.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by mcphage »

throwawaymaths wrote: post #49
yongjik wrote: post #36

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You can say you're (rightfully) upset, without throwing employees of a major investor onto a jail without functioning toilets. The problem is that the US is sending deeply conflicting messages. Does it want Hyundai's investment or not? It's not that Hyundai needs to build a factory in the middle of nowhere in Georgia.

So companies should be able to bribe the government and skirt laws at their expedience?

> So companies should be able to bribe the government and skirt laws at their expedience?

That is the current administration’s policy, yes.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by leptons »

blargey wrote: post #100
leptons wrote: post #90

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I think the issue is that building factories in the US and then filling them with foreign workers is the opposite of bringing jobs to the US - those 300 jobs should be US jobs, not South Korean jobs. That said, I think what ICE has been doing is very wrong.

The factory isn't even being "filled with foreign workers", it's being set up by foreign workers so they can start employing 10x as many locals to actually staff it long term.

At the time it was actually filled with foreign workers, who were likely here illegally. Look, I am no fan of trump or any of what ICE is doing, but the fact is there were 300 foreign workers here illegally inside that factory. That's completely stupid of the company to do considering the current political climate.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by mempko »

lisbbb wrote: post #73
cmdli wrote: post #64

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The solution here is to work with South Korea to follow actual procedure, not arrest everybody and deport them. These people were objectively good for the American economy.

I'm totally fine with these crackdowns and I hope H1Bs get a polite boot out the door next. It's the only way US citizens are ever getting tech work again.

Go look into Trump's 2017 tax law and how it led to the mass tech layoffs. Maybe instead of blaming immigrants you will start realizing who actually created the layoffs.

https://qz.com/tech-layoffs-tax-code-trump-section-174-micro...

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by mempko »

behnamoh wrote: post #12
yladiz wrote: post #9

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It would be impossible, a lot of the expertise that these people have would take years to train another person to have.

So your solution is to shut our eyes and let undocumented foreigners take the jobs that a well-educated American society could fulfill?

Show me any evidence your Republican party cares about educating Americans. Are they supporting better pay for teachers? Are they supporting more resources to schools? Are they pushing for tuition free college?

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Post by alchemical_piss »

runsWphotons wrote: post #48
yongjik wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can say you're (rightfully) upset, without throwing employees of a major investor onto a jail without functioning toilets. The problem is that the US is sending deeply conflicting messages. Does it want Hyundai's investment or not? It's not that Hyundai needs to build a factory in the middle of nowhere in Georgia.

It wants Hyundai's investment and it wants to create American jobs and also have Hyundai follow the laws. The extremity of the right is fueled by an apparently prevalent reluctance to enforce any rules.

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