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The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by ponector »

perching_aix wrote: post #30
behnamoh wrote: post #4

Adobe Reader is the first app I don't install on new machines. It's slow and sluggish, riddled with dark patterns and annoying pop ups, disrespects the user in every possible way, and hides basic editing functionality behind subscriptions. The trashiest piece of crap software. It's up there with MS Word (which gets progressively more bloated on Mac). Edit: Added "software" after crap for clarity.

> annoying pop ups Are pop-ups ever not annoying? :) Been on mind a lot lately actually, and I basically cannot come up with a situation where popups are actually an unavoidable and proper good choice. Not from a user perspective anyways (from a dev perspective, it's an easy way out and a "good" way to attention grab... and then not hold).

>> I basically cannot come up with a situation where popups are actually an unavoidable and proper good choice

How about pop-up with 2fa request? Better to have pop-up for push notification than to look for auth app by yourself.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by emmelaich »

Havoc wrote: post #22

Worst part is the browsers are now better anyway at filling in forms and signing etc while adobe crap tries to upsell you for that

Yes. I don't when it happened exactly, but Chrome does a great job.

I remember trying a year or so ago and it couldn't. Or badly.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by pjmlp »

behnamoh wrote: post #4

Adobe Reader is the first app I don't install on new machines. It's slow and sluggish, riddled with dark patterns and annoying pop ups, disrespects the user in every possible way, and hides basic editing functionality behind subscriptions. The trashiest piece of crap software. It's up there with MS Word (which gets progressively more bloated on Mac). Edit: Added "software" after crap for clarity.

While I share same feelings, I do install it, because I keep getting PDFs that only Acrobat is able to process.

All alternatives always fail short, especially in business context where people get inventive with PDF capabilities.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by Timwi »

IChrisI wrote: post #104
perching_aix wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> annoying pop ups Are pop-ups ever not annoying? :) Been on mind a lot lately actually, and I basically cannot come up with a situation where popups are actually an unavoidable and proper good choice. Not from a user perspective anyways (from a dev perspective, it's an easy way out and a "good" way to attention grab... and then not hold).

"Are you sure you want to close 146 tabs?"

This is a great example of an unnecessary pop-up. There should just be an obvious way to undo it.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by jbn »

diggan wrote: post #36
robin_reala wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re talking Mac, why on earth would you install Adobe Reader? I’m sure there’s a different set of 5% functionality for power users, but Preview does everything I need (including things like signature annotation, real redaction, joining multiple PDFs together) and it does it quickly and with everything enabled for free.

> joining multiple PDFs together What about joining page 2-3 from PDF A with page 7-23 from PDF B? I remember that being a huge hassle on macOS when I was using it years ago. Think I ended up using some cloud service/website for it since the documents weren't confidential at all.

my go-to tool for this is pdftk.

See https://www.pdflabs.com/docs/pdftk-cli-examples/

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by Self-Perfection »

winkelwagen wrote: post #32

At this point i don’t trust large programs anymore. Someone recommended to use Lens to manage a k8 cluster. That application was a 600mb install file and if I’m not mistaken double that after installing on a Mac. Desktop software has become so crazy. Meanwhile the blender download is 300mb. It is not that I’m looking for over optimized software. But a 2gb k8 console doesn’t spark trust in the developers to begin with…

Just a week ago I reported 37 MB of wasted space in Debian package with Lens https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/debian-package-stores-lima-twic...

They promised to fix this.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by qingcharles »

scrumper wrote: post #7

I was pretty shocked by this. I recently bought an old PC laptop to use in my workshop, to run some engine diagnostic software and machine control stuff that doesn't work on Mac. Of course one of the first things it needed was some PDF reading tool so I went for Reader, figuring Adobe's tool would be the least scummy. Installed it and suddenly I was getting McAfee popups? God knows what else it installed along with i…

I have the paid version of Adobe Acrobat. The sheer number of pop-ups in that app is insanely infuriating. It's hard to get any work done. Especially now as they run ads inside it for their "AI" features (which are a paid add-on).

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by msephton »

Timwi wrote: post #135
IChrisI wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Are you sure you want to close 146 tabs?"

This is a great example of an unnecessary pop-up. There should just be an obvious way to undo it.

There is, but not everybody will know how to find it. Whereas everybody will see the warning alert.

Personally, I wouldn't call this a popup because this was a result of a user action.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by alexthehurst »

wtallis wrote: post #126
perching_aix wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> annoying pop ups Are pop-ups ever not annoying? :) Been on mind a lot lately actually, and I basically cannot come up with a situation where popups are actually an unavoidable and proper good choice. Not from a user perspective anyways (from a dev perspective, it's an easy way out and a "good" way to attention grab... and then not hold).

Consider how some developers today talk about "toast" notifications: they understand on some level that calling them pop-ups is bad, but came to a consensus that using a different name was appropriate, rather than not actually making pop-ups in the first place.

But aren’t toasts fundamentally different by being intentionally designed not to block your work?
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