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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by palata »

litmus-pit-git wrote: post #101

And I will be leaving Mailbox.org for Runbox, or Purelymail, or Fastmail. I have a few more months' credit remaining on Mailbox, besides I am yet to try the trials. (This is for the author and anyone else) If you are looking for responsive (or even barely responsive) and responsible support responses whenever you need it, weigh your options very carefully about which mail host you want to move to. You might need it o…

Have you considered Migadu? I don't have shares there, just a very happy customer :-).

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by xandrius »

prof-dr-ir wrote: post #119
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

I am very interested in moving my photos and data to a self-hosted solution but am a little anxious about backups. Do you simply trust hetzner to not lose the data on your 1TB storage box? (I am aware that I am currently trusting google and dropbox to do just that.)

To be fair if both google and dropbox can't take care of 1TB of data, who can?

My solution against photo anxiety is to actually look at them and decide to physically print the best ones every year. More likely to be used as gifts or just fun to look through them in a photo album, nobody is going to sit next to you on a phone or computer but bring out an old photo album and everyone is on it.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by themadturk »

binaryturtle wrote: post #96
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

How do you de-google yourself properly when every 3rd website stops working entirely unless you whitelist some google stuff in your content blocker?

I've largely de-Googled myself, but not my family. The only Gmail I have is from a few old accounts that hardly ever email me anymore; I've been on Apple's email, calendar, photos, etc. for years, and use Kagi for search. Nor do I feel any pull back toward Google. The biggest involvement I have is for the correspondents I have who are still using Gmail; every time I email them, my stuff ends up in Google's system.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by onlyhumans »

rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by cptskippy »

I moved my domain to ProtonMail at the start of the year and my only real challenge is shared calendars.

Does anyone have a suggested solution that allows multiple people to share and manage a calendars that isn't Google Calendar or locked to a particular platform (Apple).

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by cptskippy »

palata wrote: post #123

> The last two providers offered true end-to-end encryption This is not quite right. The only offer e2ee if you send an email to someone on the same provider (e.g. ProtonMail to ProtonMail). If you write to someone using Gmail, it's not e2ee. IMHO this kind of e2ee is interesting for companies (because every employee is on the same provider, and it's better to have the internal communications on ProtonMail than share…

Custom domains make it really simple to move around. I was able to move from Gmail to ProtonMail on a Sunday afternoon without anyone knowing that I'd made a change.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by jmlim00 »

habi wrote: post #73
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

> OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. https://www.magicearth.com/ works well for car navigation with OSM data, and https://cycle.travel/ is the best way to navigate on a bike, also with OSM data. In which country do you live, if I might ask?

Was about to mention magic earth, but of course someone else has recommended it already. Was talking with a coworker about degoogling and they brought up this. Surprisingly works good enough where I live.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by nine_k »

palata wrote: post #118
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by palata »

_mlbt wrote: post #10

I wish there was something like cell phone number porting for email addresses. I don’t know how it would work on the technical side or how you could secure something like that, but the idea of switching email providers is too daunting, so I stay with Gmail despite abandoning all my other Google accounts and services.

It took me 20 years with Gmail to realise that I had screwed up by not starting with a custom domain.

When I finally changed, it was a lot easier than I thought. I just gradually migrated my accounts everywhere. I still have my old Gmail address, but I almost don't use it anymore.

Also (but I didn't try), couldn't you setup your own domain with Gmail? So that you still have everything in Gmail while you migrate all your accounts... but honestly for me it was really fine to deal with two email addresses for a while.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by giuliomagnifico »

palata wrote: post #123

> The last two providers offered true end-to-end encryption This is not quite right. The only offer e2ee if you send an email to someone on the same provider (e.g. ProtonMail to ProtonMail). If you write to someone using Gmail, it's not e2ee. IMHO this kind of e2ee is interesting for companies (because every employee is on the same provider, and it's better to have the internal communications on ProtonMail than share…

That's correct, I meant that you have to always use their app, whether to use e2ee or not. There is no IMAP.

Mailbox also offers e2ee via browser among the same mailbox users, but it also has IMAP and PGP.

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