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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by rcleveng »

aranelsurion wrote: post #125
toastercat wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

I've been a registered user of ST for long long time, and I thought if anything hurt them in the marketplace, it was taking several years off from the end of 2013 until late 2017 with hardly anything being released that opened the door to Atom and other editors to catch up.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by yubblegum »

Groxx wrote: post #21
decentrality wrote: post #2

DeltaDB sounds of being a >git innovation for coding itself, and would fulfill Zed's promises in Nathan Sobo's debate/discussion with Steve Yegge recently. Seems to solve a real problem which is growing rapidly, both in the old way and in the new way ... if it can overcome _slop_ in LLM chats, and the sheer enormity of code/data ahead. Trying to picture how coherence will survive. With claims/hype/concern floating ar…

For anyone not clicking through the link: it's from 5 months ago, predicting 90% of today's code will be from LLMs. > I think we will be there in three to six months, where AI is writing 90% of the code. They're going to keep saying it because it's a juicy sound bite and they're sales people . That doesn't make it any more true than "9 out of 10 dentists recommend our socks" or how we surely have all had flying cars…

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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by pantalaimon »

aranelsurion wrote: post #125
toastercat wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

Plugins were kind of it's selling point, yet it was pretty easy to mess it up with Plugins to the point of it being unusable - and not knowing what plug-in caused that.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by popcorncowboy »

Aw man :( I too loved the promise of Zed.

Well done I suppose to the Zed founders as they're on the Sequoia gravy train now. But as others have noted this puts an inevitable clock on the enshittification no matter how hard the team crosses their heart and truly believes otherwise (or not, I mean maybe this IS the gameplan).

Hopefully Zedless [0] gets some community steam behind it.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44964916

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by verdverm »

ParetoOptimal wrote: post #73
verdverm wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do all those same things in VS Code, especially the vim bindings, wouldn't give those up, but did recently leave the vim ecosystem because I had to spend too much time making the IDE work or enable features that are out-of-the-box in a code-oss based IDE

You probably give up just as much privacy with VS Code as you do with Zed, no? Just sent to different overlords?

what? I didn't comment on privacy

I give lots of feedback to Copilot in the hopes it makes the agents better in the long-run. I want them to read my code and train on it, along with the interactions with copilot, which is the next frontier in (post) training

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by toastercat »

aranelsurion wrote: post #125
toastercat wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

Yeah, as others already mentioned, I think they sat on their laurels for a bit too long and let VSCode overtake it.

For what it's worth, I went from ST3 -> VSCode -> ST4, and have been happy since. I've found that I prefer my text editor with minimal extensions, and with Sublime Text's LSP Plugin, I'm pretty content. The performance and customizable UI make it more worth it to me than VSCode.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by pvtmert »

rustystump wrote: post #123

While i am sure this sounds insane i had to drop zed due to lack of the “last file dif” button gitlens vscode plugin provides. It is a godsend on quickly debugging the why of things. If anyone knows how to replicate the same functionality with the same number of clicks in zed, id happily switch back to it.

i use the gutter markers, where a click shows the chunk-diff.

there is also inline-blame, both are native (ie. no plugins required)

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