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Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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I thought Google+’s Circles was a good idea.

Google's Circles is a classical example of something that seems like a great idea on paper but doesn't work in practice. It had too much friction: categorizing people by circles and then also deciding which circle should receive what. Apparently nobody liked it and it's one of the reasons Plus failed so spectacularly.

FWIW IG now has a similar feature. I don't use it but alas...

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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I think of this as the Dark Forest problem of social networks. The original "Dark Forest hypothesis" is the idea that alien civilizations are silent not because they're not out there; and not because they wouldn't love to meet us and form positive-sum interactions; but rather because they've all concluded — from evidence or pure logic — that there are likely to be scary things "out there" listening; and that, by tryi…

You’ve misrepresented the core of your argument. Wikipedia on dark forest hypothesis: “The "dark forest" hypothesis presumes that any space-faring civilization would view any other intelligent life as an inevitable threat…” > not because they wouldn't love to meet us and form positive-sum interactions Not sure where you got this adaptation from.

It's just seeing it from the other side, still applies IMO. E.g. not talking about politics ("making yourself 'dark'").

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Google+’s Circles was a good idea.

Google's Circles is a classical example of something that seems like a great idea on paper but doesn't work in practice. It had too much friction: categorizing people by circles and then also deciding which circle should receive what. Apparently nobody liked it and it's one of the reasons Plus failed so spectacularly.

No, it didn't fail.

Circles is group chats (WhatsApp, or whatever's popular in your neck of the woods), which I'd argue is how (most?) people in 2025 actually do “social networking.”

Instagram/TikTok/Xitter is… something else entirely.

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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> Could it be bigger? Sure. But at some point — maybe even before 1,000 people — the vibe breaks. The intimacy evaporates. You stop recognizing names. People talk less because it’s harder to know who’s listening. Growth would make it worse, not better. > > Some things work precisely because they’re small. I'd argue this is true for social networks like Facebook actually. There was a magical period in Facebook between…

There's actually a term for this, Context Collapse [1] that explores how social media forces everyone to have a single online persona instead of presenting in the way that makes sense for a given social context (e.g. the "you" at work vs. the "you" at school vs. the "you" with family). [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_collapse

That's a great point. In the mid 2000s I remember thinking about this. "You don't talk to your parents the same way you talk to your friends. So it's like, you are different people to different people."

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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I had a relative threaten his daughter, because her daughter-in-law posted some political stuff he disagreed with. Basically, he had been helping her out financially, and pulled it, because she refused to sanction her daughter-in-law on his behalf.

This goes both ways (old to young and reverse), but family goes before politics. You don't cut out, or disown, or stop visiting, or badmouth family because you disagree with their politics... If you do so, you were a shitty relative to begin with.

It depends, if the political take is sufficiently shitty it’s a betrayal of your morals, friends etc to continue to associate with your family spouting it.

Typically that has to be some extreme form of bigotry people won’t let go of after repeated coaching. Extreme bigotry or conspiracy thinking is arguably a form of abuse directed at other family members and it’s 100% ok to cut people off for being abusive.

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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> Could it be bigger? Sure. But at some point — maybe even before 1,000 people — the vibe breaks. The intimacy evaporates. You stop recognizing names. People talk less because it’s harder to know who’s listening. Growth would make it worse, not better. > > Some things work precisely because they’re small. I'd argue this is true for social networks like Facebook actually. There was a magical period in Facebook between…

"What I really want is to hang out where I hung out with my friends in college, but have all my older relatives there too."

—xkcd 1320

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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Vibe coding isn’t going to net you horizontal scalability out of the box if you know nothing about scalable system architecture. These models have more examples of single node wonder codebases than they do for real world application of algorithms like Paxos or RAFT. That being said I let Claude Sonnet 4 eat my GHC premium creds a few weeks back to see if it could figure out multiraft in Go. The short answer is just no, without doing an entire refresher on where it went wrong.

It doesn’t really matter though. If you target a DB like Yugabyte and use distributed storage like an s3 bucket or minio, you can get pretty far as long as you keep the core components memory efficient and stateless.

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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I have a bunch of little projects that benefit me personally and professionally in a number of ways.

I keep them private because for a lot of them, if others had access to the same tools, my tool assisted efforts in these areas would become ineffective if others were all doing the same thing as me.

Its only a small few tools that i'll actually share with the world.

Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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You’ve misrepresented the core of your argument. Wikipedia on dark forest hypothesis: “The "dark forest" hypothesis presumes that any space-faring civilization would view any other intelligent life as an inevitable threat…” > not because they wouldn't love to meet us and form positive-sum interactions Not sure where you got this adaptation from.

It's just seeing it from the other side, still applies IMO. E.g. not talking about politics ("making yourself 'dark'").

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Re: Do things that don't scale, and then don't scale

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> Could it be bigger? Sure. But at some point — maybe even before 1,000 people — the vibe breaks. The intimacy evaporates. You stop recognizing names. People talk less because it’s harder to know who’s listening. Growth would make it worse, not better. > > Some things work precisely because they’re small. I'd argue this is true for social networks like Facebook actually. There was a magical period in Facebook between…

There's actually a term for this, Context Collapse [1] that explores how social media forces everyone to have a single online persona instead of presenting in the way that makes sense for a given social context (e.g. the "you" at work vs. the "you" at school vs. the "you" with family). [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_collapse

This meshes deeply with "The medium is the message" from McLuhan.
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