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Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by ChadNauseam »

nikisweeting wrote: post #101

The crazy part is that the popup is not part of the DOM, it's injected by the browser *over the page content*. If it were in a browser toolbar I woudln't mind, but obscuring page content is just asking for an antitrust suit. I left chrome and switched to Brave 6mo ago because I couldn't get these "Sign in with Google" popups to stop. I tried both the chrome://settings/content/federatedIdentityApi option and the optio…

> just asking for an antitrust suit

According to other commenters in here [0], it's an open standard and other identity providers are allowed, not just google

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44715875

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by matznerd »

hammock wrote: post #50
w4rh4wk5 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course! That's why I even added this to my uBlock filter list on mobile: accounts.google.com/gsi/client

How do you get ublock to work in chrome after the update? I tried a fix I found here but it resets every time I restart the browser

go to chrome://flags ,

follow these instructions https://youtu.be/q7dnkGdndNo?t=220

then load extension in developer mode

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by saintfire »

skydhash wrote: post #102
patrickscoleman wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

their "private" is not private. about a month ago, i searched for some health-related stuff in a chrome incognito window and then immediately afterwards got related sponsored product ads on amazon in a logged in normal window.

I was trying Chrome on a work computer (because why not, I'm only doing work stuff on it). That incognito (but not really) mode made me download Firefox in an hurry.

How does Firefox improve on icognito?

I haven't used chrome in a long time but as far as I was aware they do the same thing: wipe session data on close.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by sunaookami »

matznerd wrote: post #132
hammock wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get ublock to work in chrome after the update? I tried a fix I found here but it resets every time I restart the browser

go to chrome://flags , follow these instructions https://youtu.be/q7dnkGdndNo?t=220 then load extension in developer mode

Chrome 139 removes all Manifest v2 code so this will no longer work with it starting... tomorrow https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate... https://chromestatus.com/roadmap

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by captn3m0 »

mooreds wrote: post #22
promiseofbeans wrote: post #18

I think this is referring to the FedCM api [1] It works with providers other than Google, just no one else has implemented it yet. Google's One Tap library tries to use the new api, and falls back to the classic One Tap popup when using a browser that doesn't yet implement FedCM (notice how the chrome built-in one says "sign in with google.com" rather than "sign in with Google" like One Tap normally shows) Mozilla ar…

Yeah, I attend the FedCM meetings. Firefox has one dev working on it who attends regularly. I have found some posts where the safari team has said "seems like a good idea, we'll consider implementing" but have not seen further action. Edge supports it, and it should be relatively easy for the other Chromium based browsers.

- https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/309

- https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/618

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by JimDabell »

mooreds wrote: post #21

The Chrome experience is actually part of a new standard, Federated Credential Management (or FedCM for short). The idea is to create a browser mediated login experience that gives the identity provider and web app what they need without being able to correlate requests across the Internet. I am working on an article on this topic. If you are interested in learning more, here's a video from a recent auth focused conf…

> They are actively working on the standard and Firefox has committed to it.

Mozilla standards position says neutral:

https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#fedcm

Their issue tracker on the subject shows they are interested but have a lot of reservations about the details:

> However, some of our reservations on the initial positive position have not been addressed and some new issues have arisen.

— https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/618

Apple had a vague “interested” position over three years ago, with no further detail:

https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/309

Have these positions changed?

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by oefrha »

benlivengood wrote: post #122
michaelt wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious - how does the standard make "to continue, google.com will share your name, e-mail address and profile picture" compatible with "a modern, privacy-preserving standard for federated identity on the web" ?? I mean, that doesn't sound privacy-preserving at all?

Why would you share your real name with Google when making a gmail account, or use your real picture? It's fine to be pseudonymous on the Internet if you are in control of your pseudonyms, which Google accounts actually does allow with some extra work (don't mix your chrome profiles and Google accounts, etc.) Or, like me, you can roll the dice on real names on the Internet (for professional things mostly)

> Why would you share your real name with Google when making a gmail account, or use your real picture?

Google made a big push in that direction starting in the Google+ era. IIRC at some point my fake names were rejected by Google and I had to change to more plausible fake names.

You can't fault regular people for falling into Big Tech's traps.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by CalRobert »

Sophira wrote: post #124
StrandedKitty wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a big upside to Google One Tap. It makes users sign up for your product like crazy. I recently added it to a SaaS web app I'm working on, and the number of new sign ups went up 8x overnight. You don't necessarily have to create an account to use the minimal functionalty of our app, but after signing up you do get some perks, and we get a way to communicate with the user through email. So I think it can be ben…

You're assuming that the user actually wants to sign up. In reality, it's likely that they're just clicking "Continue" in order to get rid of the dialog and couldn't care less about a signup.

In fairness, they never said they thought the user signups were intentional..

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski »

lucb1e wrote: post #12

Does nobody find this intrusive when it appears on sites like pornhub? Of all places where I'd sign in with a Google account... holy heck, I was very surprised they chose to let Google do that nearly-fullscreen popup on their site upon every visit (since you visit in private tab, it's a fresh session every time) Even on reddit it annoys the heck out of me and I was very surprised they let this third party ruin the ex…

  > nearly-fullscreen popup on their site upon every visit
I did a bunch of trial and error awhile back instead of reading the docs but you can add a rule to ublock that will look something like this. Hopefully someone comments a better filter than this mess lol

  ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe/select?client_id=*
Fuck all these banners...

Fuck all these cookie popups...

I just want to browse

Seriously, how the fuck do people raw dog the web? It's unbearable. When are people going to move away from Chrome(ium)?

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski »

_nickwhite wrote: post #57
hammock wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get ublock to work in chrome after the update? I tried a fix I found here but it resets every time I restart the browser

Use ungoogled-chromium (or Firefox).

  > or Firefox
Or just use Firefox because even using chromium is empowering Google to keep playing these games. Maybe you have a problem with Firefox (most people won't notice the difference) but is that problem worse that the problem you have with Google?
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