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Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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Fabian Cancellera was widely suspected of mechanical doping in Paris Roubaix in 2010 (possibly also the tour of Flanders that year). Since then, however, they x-ray bikes for motors. More importantly, riders aren't switching bikes they way they used to. Greg LeMond claimed Chris Froome used on in the TDF. References: https://www.bennionkearny.com/the-hidden-motor-mechanical-do... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbvu…

Froome was just good old fashioned doping.

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #121

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This is the thing that's always brought up. That female junior cyclocross racer (its a different sport bub) and one attack that fans didn't like. People like you keep going with these two, even though they mean nothing. And then the conspiracy shit. The motodoping topic is closer related to pizzagate than it is road racing.

What does Istvan Varjas do for a living?

Now that I found out about him, and saw an [interview](https://index.hu/video/2018/07/23/rejtett_motoros_kerekpar_b...) he gave years ago, an old thought of mine came up.

I was always thinking this was a really underserved market. Ebikes have been really in demand for a long while, but most of the offer was based on very heavy city bikes. I was always thinking that a much sportier, more efficient race ebikes would be a huge hit. I saw some prototypes on kickstarter but nothing that sticked.

I wonder why. If I had the energy and resources I think I would try going into that product space. Seems like ripe for disruption.

I ride ebikes a lot, and I used to ride race bikes a lot as well, years ago. For a long time I thought that a heavy city ebike is similar to a very efficient race bike that in terms of effort required. After I started to ride them simultaneously (more or less), maybe an ebike is in fact more helpful over longer periods, but a light race bike isn't far away. So a product that captures best of both worlds would do great IMO.

LE. Apparently I'm late by around 5 years. When I last had this thought there was literally just a kickstarter project. Now I see most big brands have electric road bike offerings. Still, at 4-5k EUR price points, there's still a lot of value to capture.

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #122

Fabian Cancellera was widely suspected of mechanical doping in Paris Roubaix in 2010 (possibly also the tour of Flanders that year). Since then, however, they x-ray bikes for motors. More importantly, riders aren't switching bikes they way they used to. Greg LeMond claimed Chris Froome used on in the TDF. References: https://www.bennionkearny.com/the-hidden-motor-mechanical-do... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbvu…

Greg LeMond has been on a whole motodoping tour online recently to stay relevant. He clearly does not understand modern cycling and he has a ton of people he wants to put down for the sake of his own reputation. There is not reason to believe him more than a crazy uncle.

Yes, that's what people said about him when he was speaking against doping in the late 90s/early 2000s too.

Remember when he was forced to issue an apology to Lance Armstrong for calling out his relationship with Dr. Ferrari(doping connoisseur)?

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #83

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Not any more - nowadays being aero is more important and that adds quite a bit of weight. And disc brake sets are also heavier than brake pads used to be.

The UCI weight limit still seems to be in place. Disc brakes have been allowed since 2018 it seems.

It is, but the minimum weight is harder to achieve with the extra weight of the disc brakes...

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #12

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Not just at the elite level either. The whereabouts system has expanded to apply to tens of millions of people, completely outside of any serious national or international legal frameworl.

> The whereabouts system has expanded to apply to tens of millions of people, completely outside of any serious national or international legal framewor[k]. What? Why? Who cares whether the 500,000th-fastest bicycle racer in the world is cheating?

not necessarily saying it's a good system, but I remember working with someone who had previously tried making it pro in a sport who was really frustrated with a lot of doping at the low levels. In order to advance upwards, it was necessary to do well in the lower levels, but due to the lax testing he was competing against other athletes with an unfair advantage.

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #96

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Basketball isn’t as demanding physically as cycling. You need to be fit but not to the extreme degree cycling demands. I would expect doping to be most beneficial in sports where pure physicality is needed. Marathon, triathlon, track running.

There's a lot more money in basketball, though. And money is the number 1 incentive. Growth hormones might be used.

Look at all the incidents of blood clots or DVT in NBA players and it starts to look pretty suspicious.

Re: Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?

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post #12

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Not just at the elite level either. The whereabouts system has expanded to apply to tens of millions of people, completely outside of any serious national or international legal frameworl.

> The whereabouts system has expanded to apply to tens of millions of people, completely outside of any serious national or international legal framewor[k]. What? Why? Who cares whether the 500,000th-fastest bicycle racer in the world is cheating?

The whereabouts of system is used in all serious sports, ie those that follow wada rules.
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