Google is making harder and harder to depend on their software.
That’s a good thing from my perspective. I wish they’d crush YouTube next. That’s the only Google IP I haven’t been able to avoid.
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I'm still shocked that my google voice number still functions after all these years. It makes me assume it's main purpose is to actually be an honeypot of some sort, maybe for spam call detection.
Another shocking story to share. I have a tiny service built on top of Google App Engine that (only) I use personally. I made it 15+ years ago, and the last time I deployed changes was 10+ years ago. It's still running. I have no idea why.
It's the most enterprise-y and legacy thing Google sells.
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Fix that at the presentation layer (PDFs and Word files etc support links) not the data one.
Let me know when you figure out how to make a printed scientific journal clickable.
Take a photo on your phone, OS recognises the link in the image, makes it clickable, done. Or, use a QR code instead
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#134I have only given this a moment's thought, but why not just publish the URL map as a text file or SQLLite DB? So at least we know where they went? I don't think it would be a privacy issue since the links are all public?
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#135About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.
Can't someone just go through programmatically right now and build a list of all these links and where they point to? And then put up a list somewhere that everyone can go look up if they need to?
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#136About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Goo.gl https://tracker.archiveteam.org/goo-gl/ (1.66B work items remaining as of this comment) How to run an ArchiveTeam warrior: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior (edit: i see jaydenmilne commented about this further down thread, mea culpa)
Thank you for that information!
I wanted to help and did that using VMware.
For curious people, here is what the UI looks like, you have a list of projects to choose, I choose the goo.gl project, and a "Current project" tab which shows the project activity.
Project list: https://imgur.com/a/peTVzyw
Current project: https://imgur.com/a/QVuWWIj
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Adding an external service so you don’t have to store a few hundred bytes is wild, particularly within a pdf.
It's not the bytes. It's the fact that it's likely gonna be printed in a paper journal, where you can't click the link.
I find it amusing that you are complaining about not having a computer to click a link while glossing over the fact that you need a computer to use a link at all.
This use case of "I have a paper journal and no PDF but a computer with a web browser" seems extraordinarily contrived. I have literally held a single-digit number of printed papers in my entire life while looking at thousands as PDFs. If we cared, we'd use a QR code.
This kind of luddite behavior sometimes makes using this site exhausting.
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Let me know when you figure out how to make a printed scientific journal clickable.
Take a photo on your phone, OS recognises the link in the image, makes it clickable, done. Or, use a QR code instead
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If Cloudflare provides the infra (thanks Cloudflare!), I am happy to have them provide the compute and network for the lookups (which, at their scale, is probably a rounding error), with the Internet Archive remaining the storage system of last resort. Is that different than the Internet Archive offering compute to provide the lookups on top of their storage system? Everything is temporary, intent is important, etc.…
This is much better positioned for longevity than google’s URL shortener, I’m not trying to make that argument. My point is that 10-15 years ago, when Google’s URL shortener was being adopted for all these (inappropriate) uses, its use was supported by a public opinion of Google’s ‘inevitability’. For Perma, CF serves a similar function.
Point taken.
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Adding an external service so you don’t have to store a few hundred bytes is wild, particularly within a pdf.
It's not the bytes. It's the fact that it's likely gonna be printed in a paper journal, where you can't click the link.
which makes url shorteners even more attractive for printed media, because you don't have to type many characters manually