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Post by dmonitor »

amradio1989 wrote: post #90
leptons wrote: post #61

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>this won't work as effective here as in China, not even close, because the US is not authoritarian enough to mobilize every level of the govt and the economy by just empty propaganda slogans. Have you been under a rock for the last 6 months as Trump tells Xi Jinping to hold his beer??

Comparing Trump to Xi Jinping is an unfunny joke. Americans have lost the plot on what true authoritarianism really looks like. America has no chance vs China in the AI race precisely because the President of the CCP has far more power in his country than the President of the US. Its not even close.

I'm not a fan of the growing "The US needs to become more autocratic before the bad guys get us" narrative that AI proselytizers keep sharing.

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Post by debugnik »

neverrroot wrote: post #103
baron816 wrote: post #67

> We need to build and maintain vast AI infrastructure and the energy to power it. To do that, we will continue to reject radical climate dogma > This initial phase acknowledges the need to safeguard existing assets and ensures an uninterrupted and affordable supply of power. The United States must prevent the premature decommissioning of critical power generation resources Yeah, they're going to do all they can to b…

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> Then we have Spain, that after the blackout, suddenly burns a lot more gas (41% more).

The Spain blackout wasn't a problem inherent to renewables, our grid simply lacks the storage and voltage control needed for the mix we intend. So, to keep the grid stable until we solve it, we'll need a more realistic mix for our current grid, burning more gas, yes.

Engineers apparently knew this was needed for years, but our industries are experts at kicking cans down the road. The blackout could have been preventable with the right investments.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by y-curious »

KidComputer wrote: post #102
moomoo11 wrote: post #92

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Move fast and break things is why we have progressed from chopping off people's limbs and giving them cocaine to now. And healthcare is still far from perfect. Imagine what healthcare in 2500 will be like.

> Move fast and break things is why we have progressed from chopping off people's limbs and giving them cocaine to now. This is just false. Healthcare does not move fast.

Anaesthetics in the form of ether went from official invention to worldwide use (in wealthy countries) in less than a decade. Many other medical inventions followed suit.

"The FDA moves slowly." Is a sentence I would agree with

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by moomoo11 »

KidComputer wrote: post #102
moomoo11 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Move fast and break things is why we have progressed from chopping off people's limbs and giving them cocaine to now. And healthcare is still far from perfect. Imagine what healthcare in 2500 will be like.

> Move fast and break things is why we have progressed from chopping off people's limbs and giving them cocaine to now. This is just false. Healthcare does not move fast.

That’s why people can’t get experimental drugs or therapies.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by atleastoptimal »

toofy wrote: post #125
atleastoptimal wrote: post #122

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So you claim that nobody in the US has died due to waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims?

> So you claim that nobody in the US has died due to waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs i don’t thing they made those claims, at all…

The implication was that since I didn't work in a clinic I couldn't make any inferences or reference to facts sourced from the news. If that's the standard for truth then there's no point in making claims since anyone could just say "uhhh you're not a doctor so you can't say that" ad infinitum.

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Post by atleastoptimal »

bobmcnamara wrote: post #129
atleastoptimal wrote: post #114

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Healthcare in the US is already in very poor shape. Thousands die because of waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims because insurers won't cover it. AI is already better at diagnosis than physicians in most cases.

How does AI evaluate signs today?

A process is described here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.22405

>A physician or AI begins with a short case abstract and must iteratively request additional details from a gatekeeper model that reveals findings only when explicitly queried. Performance is assessed not just by diagnostic accuracy but also by the cost of physician visits and tests performed.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by bko »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #113
crystal_revenge wrote: post #107

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> I'm sure "move fast and break things" will work out great for health care. Health care is already broken to the point of borderline dystopia. When I contrast the experience I had as a young boy of visiting a rural country doctor to the fast food health care experience of "urgent care" clinics, it makes my head spin. The last few doctors I've been to have been completely useless and generally uncaring as well. Every…

I’m sure move fast and break things, now with AI (tm) will reduce the deepening monetization of the doctor-patient relationship that’s the root of your complaints.

Sometimes I just need a prescription. I don't know why I have to drive somewhere, fill out a form, wait, see a nurse, tell them what I wrote on the form, wait some more, see a doctor and tell them what I wrote on the form and have him write me a prescription.

Why can't I just chat with an AI bot and get my prescription? Much cheaper to administer which helps monetization (!) but much better and cheaper for me.

Things aren't slow and wasteful because of monetization. Having all these steps doesn't necessarily mean more profit. I would argue that its deeply inefficient for everyone involved and doctors. For instance, physician salaries have decreased 25% in real terms over the last 20 years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Residency/comments/15cr60z/adjusted...

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Post by consumer451 »

giantg2 wrote: post #81
Thrymr wrote: post #54

> Many of America’s most critical sectors, such as healthcare, are especially slow to adopt due to a variety of factors, including distrust or lack of understanding of the technology, a complex regulatory landscape, and a lack of clear governance and risk mitigation standards. A coordinated Federal effort would be beneficial in establishing a dynamic, “try-first” culture for AI across American industry. I'm sure "mov…

AI for treatment is rightfully scrutinized. AI for billing or other administrative tasks could be a big cost saver since administrative costs are a huge expense and a major factor of high consumer costs.

> AI for billing or other administrative tasks could be a big cost saver

Do we really still think that "AI" is some sort of magic that does everything for everyone?

What are the alignment goals of healthcare billing AIs?

Won't it just end up with insurance conglomerates having their AIs which battle the billing admin AIs on the service provider side?

Ffs, AI is not magic! This all feels like yet another form of tech deism, hoping that some magical higher power will solve all of our problems.

I am a daily user of LLM-based dev tools, but the real definition of AI appears to be Accelerated Ignorance.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by andsoitis »

neverrroot wrote: post #103
baron816 wrote: post #67

> We need to build and maintain vast AI infrastructure and the energy to power it. To do that, we will continue to reject radical climate dogma > This initial phase acknowledges the need to safeguard existing assets and ensures an uninterrupted and affordable supply of power. The United States must prevent the premature decommissioning of critical power generation resources Yeah, they're going to do all they can to b…

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