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FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

knodi123 wrote: post #89
timewizard wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Did I miss the vote we had on broadband speed goals, or whether we should publish prices? Get outta here with that. Most of Trump's outrageous policies are incredibly unpopular, even among his base. He's just enacting the wildly unpopular Project 2025, which he denied ever hearing of while hiring 70% of its authors into his administration.

> Most of Trump's outrageous policies are incredibly unpopular, even among his base.

News to me. I read liberal and conservative sites; I think you are dead wrong from what I’ve seen.

The most common comment I see on conservative sites is “I voted for this” “This is what I voted for” or some variation. Everything except the handling of the Epstein information.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by burnt-resistor »

xeonmc wrote: post #25
Cornbilly wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, FYI to all commenters: The FCC board is required to have no more than 3 members from a single political party on the board of 5.

Are there any similar requirements for the Supreme Court?

Or widespread, self-dealing gerrymandering of Congressional representative districts and taking corporate money by representatives and senators in most states?

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by burnt-resistor »

kstrauser wrote: post #93
jmyeet wrote: post #32

My building recently got wired up with a local ISP taht is offering gigabit fiber for... $25/month. AT&T Fiber or Verizon Fios will tend to start at $60-90/month as an "introductory" price where your bill just keeps going up $10-20/months every yera unless you go through the dance of calling up and threatening to cancel every year. So you could be paying $140/month when a new customer is being charged half that. Chat…

I live in the SF Bay Area where Sonic offers 10Gbit connections for $60/month. They’re a medium sized local provider with excellent support and great prices, and they’re making money doing it . If “economy of scale” were uncapped, Comcast should be a fraction of that price.

I miss Sonic and DSLExtreme. There's only Spectrum (Charter) and GVEC here.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by mjamesaustin »

Bluestein wrote: post #40
giantg2 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that definition, we haven't been leading for years since the Chinese are cranking them out much faster than Tesla. What if we want to be a world leader in satellite internet coverage? Is that a goal you support? Because that's part of what these changes are about.

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This is exactly what the US did to Britain. One empire rises, another falls.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by tzs »

giantg2 wrote: post #14

I think this isn't as bad as people make of out to be. The 100/20 goal is perfectly fine for the vast majority of users. The only thing really supporting the old goal of gigabit connections was fiber. I would rather see the expansion of traditional cable or even satellite to rural areas. Fiber plans tend to be expensive and mostly available in the areas that already have usable high speed options. If we really want t…

Coax can come close of the previous FCC gigabit goal. The FCC wanted 1 Gb/s down/500 Mb/s up. Xfinity is currently offering 2 Gb/s down over coax to most of their residential customers. They can only do 200-300 Mb/s up though.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by dsab »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #127
dsab wrote: post #123

In Poland I have 1000/300 fiber in my family house village with ~500 people population and same 1000/300 fiber in city I currently live both for 30 USD / month.

Data caps? Does it really offer that speed at peak times though? Are oversubscription of backhaul infrastructure disclosed? In semi-rural hill country TX, 2.5 Gbps symmetric from an internet co-op is $90 USD/month without data caps.

It keeps that speed at peak times without any issues, low pings, fast download speeds. With such internet connection the server is bottleneck, so if I download Linux distro I often choose torrent download option. There is no official data caps too.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by bob1029 »

I find the political angles to be boring. The reality out in the actual communities is much more varied and interesting.

For example, the Texas market is going crazy with FTTP providers. Even comcast is starting to get involved by upgrading infra and buying out even worse incumbents. My old house in the Houston area has two competing fiber providers now.

These aren't fly by night operations either. The last provider I had backed their entire last mile infrastructure with standby natural gas generators. I never lost symmetric gigabit internet access despite not having any power or water during Beryl.

At what point do we look at broadband penetration as a solved problem and focus on bigger ones? Unless you live in a radio quiet zone, there is going to be some ability to get online at this point.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by dclowd9901 »

Bluestein wrote: post #41
lenerdenator wrote: post #38

As with everything involving this administration, the behavior will continue until an effective negative stimulus is introduced.

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I think you got it backward. The morale of our administration isn't what's in danger here, and as far as I can tell, none of them have gotten a beating they deserve.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by Bluestein »

wnevets wrote: post #50
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #2

Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. - Reduce science - Reduce collected data - Reduce immigration - Reduce infrastructure - Reduce adoption of EVs

If an adversarial nation had control of the white house would anyone be able to tell the difference

Talk about one heck of a "Chinese room" scenario ...

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by dclowd9901 »

tzs wrote: post #87

Wow. The article notes: > Section 706 of the Telecommunications Act requires the FCC to determine whether broadband is being deployed "on a reasonable and timely basis" to all Americans. Carr says that when looking into whether that is being satisfied the FCC should not consider affordability because section 706 does not contain the word "affordability". But it also does not contain any words for any of the things he…

Of course the angle is disingenuous. "Reasonable" here implies that it's reasonably attainable for customers. This is merely choosing interpretation arbitrarily. Like me saying the sky is green because green is partly comprised of the color blue.
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