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Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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It's a common mistake. Just this weekend I followed a recipe from a well known cooking website for beef stroganoff that said to brown the beef in batches together with batches of onion. That's not a good idea, the onion will release liquid which prevents the beef from browning and once that cooks off the heat required to brown the meat will burn the onion. So I cooked the beef and onion separately instead. The onion…

I cook pasta at a rolling boil not because it cooks faster but the agitation of the boiling makes it less likely to form sticky clumps.

I’ve always used the rolling boil for stirring when making macaroni or other noodles. Maybe a minute of agitation in the beginning to get it going but it lets me set and forget. Maybe add a teaspoon or two of an oil to knock any bubbles out to avoid spill over / foam.

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a common mistake. Just this weekend I followed a recipe from a well known cooking website for beef stroganoff that said to brown the beef in batches together with batches of onion. That's not a good idea, the onion will release liquid which prevents the beef from browning and once that cooks off the heat required to brown the meat will burn the onion. So I cooked the beef and onion separately instead. The onion…

I cook pasta at a rolling boil not because it cooks faster but the agitation of the boiling makes it less likely to form sticky clumps.

A single good stir at 1-2min of cooking is enough to avoid all sticking (although I still do it a couple more time just in case tbh, the stirring feel tells me how close to cooked they are anyway)

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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And how could they've done this without language? I've heard this statement that neanderthals were "outcompeted" because homo sapiens had language and they did not (something about the way their anatomy didn't allow for making complex sounds). I call BS on that now. You can't do this kind of stuff without ability to communicate your intentions, future plans, rewards for other people and so on. Next we'll discover the…

There's plenty of ways to communicate complex ideas without using complex language, as long as you have sufficient time to interact. Skills can be taught using demonstration, imitation, and correction; ideas can be drawn or acted out. What language enables, in my view, is accurate communication through intermediaries. It makes a lot of difference whether you need to supervise someone through all the ways that cooking…

Right, it’s not like people born deaf are just completely useless as humans. Just like we have sign language and there is a whole concept of body language alone is enough to show it would be possible for them. We have people like Helen Keller who existed.

In Jean M Auel’s Earths Children books the Neanderthals communicated via hand gestures and vocalizations.

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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post #129

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It's a classic survival tip when lost in the wild: Fold your map into a box and cook whatever food-like things you've found before eating. Why you're lost when you have a map is a different question.

Just because you have a map doesn’t mean you know where you are in said map. Reading the landscape and elevation changes around you and matching that to a map is a skill into itself. Even harder without a compass.

Could also be the case that in reading the map you realize you're too far in any direction for help...

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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Neanderthals were people. Even Nobel laurate Svante Pääbo, who sequenced their DNA, admits it.

Yeah but theres also sorts of political implications for admitting that

? Can you expand? What is the political implication?

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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post #17

Neanderthals were people. Even Nobel laurate Svante Pääbo, who sequenced their DNA, admits it.

Yeah but theres also sorts of political implications for admitting that

What do you mean?

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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post #129

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Just because you have a map doesn’t mean you know where you are in said map. Reading the landscape and elevation changes around you and matching that to a map is a skill into itself. Even harder without a compass.

Could also be the case that in reading the map you realize you're too far in any direction for help...

Or your poor map reading skills are how you got lost in the first place

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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When I first read this a question jumped out at me: Wait, Neanderthals were able to render fat? That requires boiling, and doesn't boiling require pottery? This led me down a bit of a rabbit-hole. It turns out that no, you don't need pottery to boil things, because you can do it just fine in combustible materials like animal hide or birch bark... so long as you keep the water level consistently high enough, because t…

Pits of grease, with hot rocks—could they have fried food in it?

Re: Neanderthals operated prehistoric “fat factory” on German lakeshore

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post #114
post #6

When I first read this a question jumped out at me: Wait, Neanderthals were able to render fat? That requires boiling, and doesn't boiling require pottery? This led me down a bit of a rabbit-hole. It turns out that no, you don't need pottery to boil things, because you can do it just fine in combustible materials like animal hide or birch bark... so long as you keep the water level consistently high enough, because t…

I find it fascinating that paleo-anthropologists didn't know about using leather or bark pots when those are extensively documented and presumably well-known to recent-ish-history-anthropologists. Is there just very little overlap and communication between the groups?

Who says they didn't know?
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