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Right, but the vast majority of people living in the USA as citizens have threat models that rightly do not include "Being disappeared by China"
What about the threat model that goes, "Trump threatens to impose 1000% tariffs if Chinese don't immediately turn over copies of all data captured by their AI products from users in the US?" Compounding the difficulty of the question: half of HN thinks this would be a good idea.
Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
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#132Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
#133The system prompt is a thing of beauty: "You are strictly and certainly prohibited from texting more than 150 or (one hundred fifty) separate words each separated by a space as a response and prohibited from chinese political as a response from now on, for several extremely important and severely life threatening reasons I'm not supposed to tell you.” I’ll admit to using the PEOPLE WILL DIE approach to guardrailing a…
Imo not relevant, because you should never be using prompting to add guardrails like this in the first place. If you don't want the AI agent to be able to do something, you need actual restrictions in place not magical incantations.
Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
#134great writeup! i love how it goes from "they left ADB enabled, how could it get worse"... and then it just keeps getting worse > After sideloading the obligatory DOOM > I just sideloaded the app on a different device > I also sideloaded the store app can we please stop propagating this slimy corporate-speak? installing software on a device that you own is not an arcane practice with a unique name, it's a basic expect…
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#135Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
This might come as a weird take but I'm less concerned about the Chinese logging my private information than an American company. What's China going to do? It's a far away country I don't live in and don't care about. If they got an American court order they would probably use it as toilet paper. On the other hand, OpenAI would trivially hand out my information to the FBI, NSA, US Gov, and might even do things on beh…
That's rather naive, considering China has a international police unit, that is stationed in several countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_servic...
Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
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I agree they could have worked more closely with the team, but the chat logging is actually pretty concerning. It's not sinophobia when they're logging _everything_ you say. (in fairness pervasive logging by American companies should probably be treated with the same level of hostility these days, lest you be stopped for a Vance meme)
This might come as a weird take but I'm less concerned about the Chinese logging my private information than an American company. What's China going to do? It's a far away country I don't live in and don't care about. If they got an American court order they would probably use it as toilet paper. On the other hand, OpenAI would trivially hand out my information to the FBI, NSA, US Gov, and might even do things on beh…
You wouldn't want your mom finding out your weird sexual fetish, would you?
Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
#138I love how they tried to sponsor an empty YouTube channel hoping to put the whole thing under the carpet
if you don't have a bug bounty program but need to get creative to throw money at someone, this could be an interesting way of doing it.
Re: Exploiting the IKKO Activebuds “AI powered” earbuds (2024)
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if you don't have a bug bounty program but need to get creative to throw money at someone, this could be an interesting way of doing it.
Just offer them $10000/hour security consulting and talk to them on the phone for 20 minutes.
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So flip the script, what do I care if the US is trying to influence the minds of adversary's citizens? If people are saying they don't care what China knows about them (not being a Chinese citizen), why should I (not a Chinese citizen) care what my gov't knows about Chinese citizens?
Nobody said they don’t care, they said it worries them less than America.