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Post by whensean »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #86
keutoi wrote: post #41

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_Allowing scam call centers to flourish_. How much control does an average citizen have over these criminal enterprises? Does an average US citizen know/care/take-action when mercenaries from their country topple governments of other countries? As long as the crime is not visible, they just enjoy fruits of their crimes.

India claims to be a democracy.

Thirty years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Western countries have successfully transformed ideology to be quite similar to religion by constructing a "democratic" narrative. Religion holds that if you convert to God or Allah, you are right and blessed. The West now believes that what is democratic is right and just. So countries like India can claim to be democratic and thus gain a moral superiority. However, in reality, democracy has little to do with justice, development, and civilization.

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Post by throwaway_434 »

_zagj wrote: post #99
throwaway_434 wrote: post #63

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> This phenomenon is large enough that I'm shocked it hasn't openly caused a diplomatic rift between the US and India, and New Delhi should have a vested interested in combating it. It is only large enough to you probably. India has been sanctioned by US in the 90s for doing reciprocal nuclear tests (after China detonated its bomb) and suffered billions of dollars in trade. US gained nothing from the sanctions except…

> India has been sanctioned by US in the 90s for doing reciprocal nuclear tests For one year. 14 other countries sanctioned India too. > The CIA is currently fuelling and instigating Manipur riots I couldn't find anything on this besides articles on Indian/Bangladeshi InfoWars-tier websites. > to what US Government has done to India over the past 7 decades Like what?

> For one year. 14 other countries sanctioned India too.

And what about it? When US sanctions any country, rest of the World follows. It is nothing new.

> I couldn't find anything on this besides articles on Indian/Bangladeshi InfoWars-tier websites.

Just google "Daniel Stephen Courney" [1]. Ex-US military. Supplying weapons and drones to Kuki narco-terrorists. It is a CIA op. We have seized US weapons in Manipur. US weapons don't magically reach far-flung Eastern region of India if not for external assistance.

Also, how does US made M16 rifle find its way into Manipur, India? [2]

1: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/us-man-gifted-drone-ma...

2: https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/india/large-cache-of-ar...

> Like what?

I don't have patience to give you the list of things US has done that is viewed negatively against India. The topmost being trying to nuke India in 1971, when US allied itself with Islamic dictatorship in Pakistan.

Re: Foreign Scammers Use U.S. Banks to Fleece Americans

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Post by throwaway_434 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #102
throwaway_434 wrote: post #57

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> And yes, I'd like particularly Narendra Modi to kneel Umm you are targeting the wrong person here. Majority of the scam call centers come from West Bengal, particularly Kolkata. Which is headed by Chief Minister Mamta Banerjee. India has a federal structure, with cooperation between Center and States. Similar to USA. Modi just can't invade Kolkata using Indian Armed Forces and dismantle the operations without facin…

First of all, I didn't downvote you, and you provide valuable context, so if the downvoters would care to explain why I would be very happy. > India has a federal structure, with cooperation between Center and States. Similar to USA. Modi just can't invade Kolkata using Indian Armed Forces and dismantle the operations without facing significant legal challenges in the Supreme Court of India. There are ways in any fed…

> The fact that there is zero such efforts visible leads me to the conclusion that Modi just doesn't give a fuck.

Modi cares about Indians more than he cares about US citizens. Indians come first. Just like Trump cares about US citizens more than he cares about Indian citizens. So when it comes to protecting Indians from scammers in Kolkata, West Bengal and other islamo-commie places Modi Government has done an excellent job. We get regular messages warning us against scams and even educating us on how these scams work.

Why doesn't Modi warn US or prevent it from targeting Western citizens? Because Modi has bigger things to worry about when it comes to India itself. If Trump personally asks Modi, then yes there will be a change (depending on how Trump reciprocates for that gesture, especially considering US has back-stabbed India too many times to even count, Modi will be weary).

> Particularly when the state in question is run by the opposition, I would expect the federal government party to use this as political ammunition.

And then what? Western institutions demonize Modi and fund regime change operations in India with their unlimited wealth? Modi won't fall into that trap. If your Governments were not so prolific in regime change operations and interfering politically in other Countries, we would have definitely done a lot to fix this issue. Right now, for any non-Western Government, it is like walking on eggshells. We never know what might piss you guys off (even if the step is in your favor) and you unleash your regime change ops in our Country. The best example that comes to my mind is India sending thousands of deportation requests for wanted criminals, terrorists and gangsters who have taken shelter in Canada, US, UK and Australia. Most of those deportation requests were rejected by your Governments. Guess who these scammers work under? Yep you guessed it right! These very same criminals, gangsters, terrorists who have found refuge in your Country.

There is a lot I can unpack. But I have only provided you with what is the tip of the iceberg.

Re: Foreign Scammers Use U.S. Banks to Fleece Americans

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Post by throwaway_434 »

_zagj wrote: post #100
geodel wrote: post #98

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Do tell about those nuclear scientists. Seems you know quite a bit.

I believe they're referring to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homi_J._Bhabha > Gregory Douglas, a journalist, conspiracy theorist,[128] forger,[129] and holocaust denier[130] who claimed to have conducted telephone conversations with former CIA operative Robert Crowley in 1993, published a book titled Conversations with the Crow in 2013. According to Douglas, Crowley claimed that the CIA was responsible for assa…

> Clearly, the GP is completely rational and quite well-informed.

Yep you believe everything under the Sun when it comes to your Governments and institutions, when it has been proven time and time again that they have been involved in regime change ops and covert ops.

It is quite evident you don't have any ability to introspect and question your own Government.

Also, it is not just Homi J Bhabha we are talking about. There is a list of at least 11 nuclear scientists that died unnatural deaths. These are just nuclear scientists. Total 684 scientists have died unnaturally in just the past 15 years.

You can keep dismissing all this as "conspiracy theory" but we all know how the 3-letter agencies operates.

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Post by testing22321 »

coderatlarge wrote: post #130
testing22321 wrote: post #125

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Never used Zelle or paid a transaction fee.

if you ever need to transfer money across far enough borders from your home, it’s currently almost impossible to avoid paying some sort of fee afaik (whether an airplane ticket to hand-carry cash or some kind of markup to convert currencies or some sort of blockchain fee to use newer methods). i’m actively looking for methods that are legal and don’t carry a fee. ex ibkr currency convert -> fidelity individual accoun…

In my online banking right now I can enter the account number of any bank anywhere in the world and transfer. No fee.

I’ve done it to almost a dozen countries flawlessly.

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Post by Anthony-G »

busterarm wrote: post #109
bag_boy wrote: post #51

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I am happy to share my mom's story, as tragic as it is. My stepfather passed away just before Covid. After he passed away, my mom was isolated and started spending time on Match.com. Eventually she found her match - a total scamming operation. She proceeded to liquidate my deceased step father's retirement savings and also took out high interest loans to send her match money. She wired the scammer well over $100k. Th…

You don't even have to be tech illiterate. A former roommate of mine who is extremely tech-savvy but just fat and lonely was constantly wiring women he'd never met money. He was constantly getting catfished on dating apps and talking all day to fake facebook profiles 2-3 hours away and they'd always have an excuse to not meet him and have their hand out for escalating amounts of money until reality hit him and he'd s…

If it kept happening like that, it kind of sounds like he was subconsciously willing to pay for the “privilege” of chatting with a “hot online friend”, similar to how some lonely people pay to chat with a famous pornstar on Only Fans – even though they (should) know they are chatting with a random call centre employee.

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Post by mouse_ »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #129
mouse_ wrote: post #126

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I'm having trouble understanding exactly what it is you're trying to say. Could you elaborate?

For thousands of years western societies executed or exiled troublemakers. This created the selective pressure that led to high trust society.

I don't know what kind of education you were brought up in, but lynch mobs are not cool, actually.

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Post by coderatlarge »

testing22321 wrote: post #135
coderatlarge wrote: post #130

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if you ever need to transfer money across far enough borders from your home, it’s currently almost impossible to avoid paying some sort of fee afaik (whether an airplane ticket to hand-carry cash or some kind of markup to convert currencies or some sort of blockchain fee to use newer methods). i’m actively looking for methods that are legal and don’t carry a fee. ex ibkr currency convert -> fidelity individual accoun…

In my online banking right now I can enter the account number of any bank anywhere in the world and transfer. No fee. I’ve done it to almost a dozen countries flawlessly.

thanks! i’d love a pointer or at least a hint..

Re: Foreign Scammers Use U.S. Banks to Fleece Americans

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Post by coderatlarge »

testing22321 wrote: post #135
coderatlarge wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you ever need to transfer money across far enough borders from your home, it’s currently almost impossible to avoid paying some sort of fee afaik (whether an airplane ticket to hand-carry cash or some kind of markup to convert currencies or some sort of blockchain fee to use newer methods). i’m actively looking for methods that are legal and don’t carry a fee. ex ibkr currency convert -> fidelity individual accoun…

In my online banking right now I can enter the account number of any bank anywhere in the world and transfer. No fee. I’ve done it to almost a dozen countries flawlessly.

including china?
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