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OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by eru »

noahjk wrote: post #121
nickjj wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andrej's talk seemed normal to listen at 2x but I've also listened to everything at 2x for a long time. Unfortunately a byproduct of listening to everything at 2x is I've had a number of folks say they have to watch my videos at 0.75x but even when I play back my own videos it feels painfully slow unless it's 2x. For reference I've always found John Carmack's pacing perfect / natural and watchable at 2x too. A recent…

To me you talk at what I would consider "1.2x" of podcast speed (which to me is a decent average measure of spoken word speed - I usually do 1.5x on all podcasts). You're definitely still in the normal distribution for tech YouTubers, in my experience - in fact it feels like a lot of tech YouTube talks like they've had a bit too much adderall, but you don't come off that way. Naturally people may choose to slow down…

> "[I]n fact it feels like a lot of tech YouTube talks like they've had a bit too much adderall, [...]"

Funnily enough, if you actually have ADHD, then stimulants like adderall or even nicotine, will calm you down.

> Naturally people may choose to slow down tutorials, [...]

For me it also depends on what mood I'm in and whether I'm doing anything else at the same time. If I'm fully concentrating on a video, 2x is often fine. If I'm doing some physical task at the same time, I need it slower than that.

If I'm doing a mental task at the same, I can forget about getting anything out of the video. At least, if the mental task involves any words. So eg I could probably still follow along a technical discussion at roughly 1x speed while playing Tetris, but not while coding.

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by zamadatix »

QuantumGood wrote: post #117
w-m wrote: post #13

With transcribing a talk by Andrej, you already picked the most challenging case possible, speed-wise. His natural talking speed is already >=1.5x that of a normal human. One of the people you absolutely have to set your YouTube speed back down to 1x when listening to follow what's going on. In the idea of making more of an OpenAI minute, don't send it any silence. E.g. ffmpeg -i video-audio.m4a \ -af "silenceremove=…

I wish there was a 2.25x YouTube option for "normal" humans. I already use every shortcut, and listen at 2x 90% of the time. But Andrej I can't take faster than 1.25x

YouTube ran an experiment with up to 4x playback on mobile (???) but it went away in February. I get a lot of the experiments they do being experiments but why just allowing the slider to go farther is such a back and forth hoopla is beyond me. It's one of the oft touted features of 3rd party apps and extensions with nearly 0 UI impact to those who don't want to use it (just don't slide the slider past 2x if you don't want past 2x).

https://www.theverge.com/news/603581/youtube-premium-experim...

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by angst »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #94
timerol wrote: post #11

> Is It Accurate? > I don’t know—I didn’t watch it, lol. That was the whole point. And if that answer makes you uncomfortable, buckle-up for this future we're hurtling toward. Boy, howdy. This is a great bit of work, and the author accurately summarizes my discomfort

As if human-generated transcriptions of audio ever came with guarantees of accuracy? This kind of transformation has always come with flaws, and I think that will continue to be expected implicitly. Far more worrying is the public's trust in _interpretations_ and claims of _fact_ produced by gen AI services, or at least the popular idea that "AI" is more trustworthy/unbiased than humans, journalists, experts, etc.

at least human-generated transcriptions have entities that we can hold responsible for...

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by userbinator »

nickjj wrote: post #119
w-m wrote: post #13

With transcribing a talk by Andrej, you already picked the most challenging case possible, speed-wise. His natural talking speed is already >=1.5x that of a normal human. One of the people you absolutely have to set your YouTube speed back down to 1x when listening to follow what's going on. In the idea of making more of an OpenAI minute, don't send it any silence. E.g. ffmpeg -i video-audio.m4a \ -af "silenceremove=…

Andrej's talk seemed normal to listen at 2x but I've also listened to everything at 2x for a long time. Unfortunately a byproduct of listening to everything at 2x is I've had a number of folks say they have to watch my videos at 0.75x but even when I play back my own videos it feels painfully slow unless it's 2x. For reference I've always found John Carmack's pacing perfect / natural and watchable at 2x too. A recent…

but even when I play back my own videos it feels painfully slow unless it's 2x.

Watching your video at 1x still feels too slow, and it's just right for me at 2x speed (that's approximately how fast I normally talk if others don't tell me to slow down), although my usual YouTube watching speed is closer to 2.5-3x. That is to say, you're still faster than a lot of others.

I think it just takes practice --- I started at around 1.25x for videos, and slowly moved up from there. As you have noticed, once you've consumed enough sped-up content, your own speaking speed will also naturally increase.

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by userbinator »

viraptor wrote: post #129
nickjj wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andrej's talk seemed normal to listen at 2x but I've also listened to everything at 2x for a long time. Unfortunately a byproduct of listening to everything at 2x is I've had a number of folks say they have to watch my videos at 0.75x but even when I play back my own videos it feels painfully slow unless it's 2x. For reference I've always found John Carmack's pacing perfect / natural and watchable at 2x too. A recent…

> Andrej's talk seemed normal to listen at 2x but I've also listened to everything at 2x for a long time. We get used to higher speeds when we consume a lot of content that way. Have you heard the systems used by experienced blind people? I cannot even understand the words in them, but months of training would probably fix that.

You can achieve a similar, less permanent effect by closing your eyes; I often do it when I'm on a call and the person on the other end is extremely difficult to understand.

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by userbinator »

mrmuagi wrote: post #52
varispeed wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a shame platforms don't generally support speeds greater than 2x. One of my "superpowers" or a curse is that I cannot stand normal speaking pace. When I watch lectures, I always go for maximum speed and that still is too slow for me. I wish platforms have included 4x but done properly (with minimal artefacts).

All audiobooks are like this for me. I tried it for lectures but if I'm taking handwritten notes, I can't keep up my writing. I wonder if there is negative side effects of this though, do you notice when interacting with people who speak slower require a greater deal of patience?

I wonder if there is negative side effects of this though, do you notice when interacting with people who speak slower require a greater deal of patience?

You are basically training your brain to work faster, and I suspect that causes some changes in the structure of your memory; if someone speaks too slowly, I'll be more likely to forget what they said earlier, compared to if they quickly gave me the entire sentence.

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by Tyr42 »

eru wrote: post #131
noahjk wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me you talk at what I would consider "1.2x" of podcast speed (which to me is a decent average measure of spoken word speed - I usually do 1.5x on all podcasts). You're definitely still in the normal distribution for tech YouTubers, in my experience - in fact it feels like a lot of tech YouTube talks like they've had a bit too much adderall, but you don't come off that way. Naturally people may choose to slow down…

> "[I]n fact it feels like a lot of tech YouTube talks like they've had a bit too much adderall, [...]" Funnily enough, if you actually have ADHD, then stimulants like adderall or even nicotine, will calm you down. > Naturally people may choose to slow down tutorials, [...] For me it also depends on what mood I'm in and whether I'm doing anything else at the same time. If I'm fully concentrating on a video, 2x is oft…

Driving is a hard 1.0 for me. But otherwise 2.0 is good.

Re: OpenAI charges by the minute, so speed up your audio

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Post by xenator »

55555 wrote: post #46

This seems like a good place for me to complain about the fact that the automatically generated subtitle files Youtube creates are horribly malformed. Every sentence is repeated twice. In many subtitle files, the subtitle timestamp ranges overlap one another while also repeating every sentence twice in two different ranges. It's absolutely bizarre and has been like this for years or possibly forever. Here's an exampl…

Seems like Thai. Thai translation and recognition is like 10 years ago comparing to other languages I'm dealing with in my everyday life. Good news tho is the same level was for Russian years ago, and now it is near perfect.
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