Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

Post by cosmicgadget » Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 10:59 PM UTC

hansjorg wrote: post #117

mlsu wrote: post #42

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Another thing that is troubling is that immigration law is sort of a parallel system to normal criminal law. The rights for the accused are lesser and obligations for officers are more lax. The burden of proof is lower. It's easier to get warrants and the rules of evidence are more relaxed. There is a parallel authoritarian system being built up, starting with the creation of DHS in 2001 and ending god knows where. T…

> Why are the right libertarians and 2A folks not speaking up right now It has been entertaining listening to the people at Reason Magazine lately. They have convinced themselves thoroughly that they're not actually racist authoritarians, so now that they're getting what they really want, but it's so diametrically opposed to what they say they believe, they have to contort themselves endlessly. Do not expect any kind…

Post by lmm » Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 11:00 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #4

The whole story of telling ICE agents to just go out and find people on their own seems like a setup to empower the executive branch to have their own group of thugs. Without guidance they do what want outside the judicial system and sensible oversight / rules. This seems to be a pattern in most non democratic countries...

Post by potholereseller » Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 11:02 PM UTC

wahern wrote: post #107

potholereseller wrote: post #83

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The other commenter mentioned "narrative", which is very relevant, because that is an important part of simulation (and your username) Baudrilliard was careful to point out that simulation isn't a matter of fabrication; to simulate is to obscure the absence of facts, not to create false facts. A simulacrum is a symbol that obscures the fact that it refers to nothing; whereas a symbol, in centuries past, invariably re…

> the only thing real in hyper-reality is that the symbols hide the absence of facts What's a fact? Concepts like justice and fairness are fundamentally cultural constructs, and yet they've always been a core concern of human society. Setting up "facts" in opposition to "simulation" is no less a rhetorical narrative than what the article is pushing. My takeaway from post-structuralism generally isn't that we live in…

Post by someothherguyy » Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 11:10 PM UTC

haunter wrote: post #75

28304283409234 wrote: post #60

I do not understand why this is flagged.

Because it's HN not /r/politics A lot of us doesn't come here to read about US internal politics

Post by timr » Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 11:14 PM UTC

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #19

potato3732842 wrote: post #13

The entire framing of this article fact that we don't even know the name of whoever he was trying to protect tells you a lot. Clearly we're not meant to be upset that fed-cops can behave this way generally, we're meant to be upset that they dared treat another agent of the state, a more equal animal, the way they'd treat a common peasant who got similarly uppity. Caring about these generalities is outside our lane.

> we're meant to be upset that they dared treat another agent of the state, I'm upset because a US citizen was arrested for asking a reasonable question to some government officials before complying with the government officials.