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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by qualeed »

Hamuko wrote: post #123
qualeed wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Innocent until proven guilty doesn't extend to internet comments. That's not a good thing. Edit: I cannot really believe that this, of all comments, is controversial. Living life treating everyone as guilty until they prove themselves innocent is... just shitty, let alone exhausting. Do people forget about how many times reddit and other ruined innocent people's lives? Sometimes HN amazes me with new technology, in…

> Living life treating everyone as guilty until they prove themselves innocent is... just shitty There's no scenario here where this guy is innocent. The distinction here is whether he's a wife-beating drug dealer or just a drug dealer. There's some evidence to suggest the former but not really enough that you can definitely state it. Personally, I'd give a convicted drug dealer less benefit of the doubt than the ave…

>There's no scenario here where this guy is innocent.

The conservation expanded past this specific case when we started talking generally about internet comments.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by UncleEntity »

jrvieira wrote: post #102
UncleEntity wrote: post #31

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/me putting on my Law & Order hat Why should the taxpayers be burdened by the results of his bad decisions? /me takes off hat

how does the taxpayer benefit from the inexistence of rehabilitation programs?

It's not mutually exclusive.

Someone can both work towards rehabilitation and pay their 'debt to society'. If they earn over what it costs to house them in a Maine prison then, by all means, let them keep the excess earnings. If they earn $100k/year and the state pays them $1.35/hr then there are deeper institutional issues around prison labor exploitation which should be addressed.

I used to have an uncle who was constantly in and out of prison over drug-related issues and he would do all sorts of work programs just to break up the monotony. Ironically, none of these rehabilitation efforts did any good and what finally 'set him straight' was the Three Strikes Law.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by mkoubaa »

wffurr wrote: post #18
laufey wrote: post #11

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Just curious, why would you expect him to be paid less? I know historically pay is bad for prisoners, but if he's working the same hours and is just as productive as any other employee, shouldn't he be paid the same? I could potentially see paying someone less if they were coming in with much less experience than what's usually hired for in the role, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

The 13th amendment specifically allows slavery of prisoners. Edit: I don’t mean to imply the author isn’t paid fairly by Turso. A few posts down, the CEO of Turso asserts that they do pay fairly. The OP in this thread might reasonably wonder about this because several states do in fact use prisoners as unpaid slave labor.

If I was a prisoner one day I think I'd rather spend my days in slave labor than weird ethno-status games.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by koakuma-chan »

b0a04gl wrote: post #50

what if prison ends up becoming the most distraction-free dev environment. no meetings, no slack pings, no linkedin recruiters, just you, a terminal, and 10 years of uninterrupted focus. kinda terrifying how productive that sounds

What are disadvantages of living in prison?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

tmoertel wrote: post #110
TheGrumpyBrit wrote: post #29

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You can make the exact same argument about employers paying different rates depending on the country the employee is based in, and for all the same reasons. Is there a good reason why a developer in Thailand or India should be paid less than their colleague who works on the same team, but is based in the US? Many companies believe so - there's a significant difference in the cost of living between those two employees…

> Is there a good reason why a developer in Thailand or India should be paid less than their colleague who works on the same team, but is based in the US? Yes, and that reason is that people in most of the developed world are free to say yes or no to job offers based on their individual preferences. And, it just so happens, in Thailand and India there are many people who will happily say yes to offers that people in…

My understanding is that top talent gets top pay, regardless of their living arrangements.

Mediocre talent ... maybe not so much, but these are also the folks that could be replaced by AI.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by dfxm12 »

mlissner wrote: post #87

Maine's remote work program is an incredibly promising development to prevent recidivism. The amazing thing about it is that it gives real jobs to prisoners that they can seamlessly continue after they get out of prison. Normally when you get out, it's impossible to get a job, and the clock is ticking. This leads to desperation, which leads to bad behavior. There is a real risk of exploitation, but if it's properly m…

Do participants get paid a real wage?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by esseph »

giztu wrote: post #82
bjorkandkd wrote: post #17

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Oh that's disappointing. I take back what I said in my other comment then, about him being open and honest. Thought he might have been one of the relatively decent ones. Seems not.

So now you're openly condemning a person that you've never met about things you don't really know about other than just some random comments on an internet forum.

For fucks sake, have some human decency. If your name was the one involved, how would something like this make you feel?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by pookha »

oersted wrote: post #48
tptacek wrote: post #33

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He wasn't charged with injuring his girlfriend, and notably fled with her after that confrontation, setting off a national manhunt that led the TV news in the area. https://apnews.com/general-news-d68dca63e95946fbb9cc82f38540...

Not an ordinary possession charge either, sounds serious! > 15 to 30 years in prison for possessing a synthetic drug with the intent to distribute it > like many synthetic opioids, the exact effects of U-47700 are little understood and a small amount could be fatal > charged with possessing carfentanil, a powerful synthetic drug much more powerful then fentanyl

I'd like to see him get life in prison with no chance at parole. He's responsible for at least three deaths (probably more) but because he's proficient at social engineering and feeding people lines he's weaseled his way into the tech industry (from prison!). Over 78k people died in 2023 of fentanyl alone and this twerp was trafficking a substance far more lethal, he literally left a trail of bodies in his wake.

https://www.wbay.com/content/news/New-Hampshire-man-suspecte...

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by david927 »

glommer wrote: post #30
chatmasta wrote: post #6

How does the compensation work? The US prison system has a bit of a nasty reputation when it comes to exploiting prison labor, so I hope those practices aren’t carrying over into these more forward-looking types of initiative… but at the same time, surely Turso isn’t paying full SWE salary?

I am the Turso CEO. We pay him a full salary, just not health care benefits.

What you're doing is really wonderful.
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