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My first attempt at iOS app development

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Post by butlike »

Angostura wrote: post #107
chii wrote: post #96

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But apple explicitly tries to make the environment around the old phone obsolete. They have an incentive to do so. Your old TV still works even with an adaptor - but there's no such a method for the phone. I want my phone to work until the hardware fails, not when apple decides they want to push people to buy a new one next quarter.

I have an iPhone 3GS from 2009. It still makes and receive phone calls and will pick up email. Some web pages will still render

I miss my 3GS. Jumped in a pool back in high school and fried it instantly. No water-resistance back then!

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Post by rhodysurf »

kaptainscarlet wrote: post #3

With the recent Expo SDK 53 update that introduced a slew of breaking changes, I've been contemplating switching my app to native. I could perhaps vibe code features on both android and iOS and ship features as fast as crossplatform react native devs.

I doubt it. I maintain both RN apps and other ones with both iOS and android versions and if you are not a company and your app does anything more than a todo list your iteration velocity grinds to an absolute halt. RN is just faster and that matters

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Post by ndiddy »

pasc1878 wrote: post #108
ryandrake wrote: post #61

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It's a Hitachi 42 inch plasma and it still looks absolutely beautiful. Not a single problem with it in almost two decades. Want to know what failed first? The goddamn Mac Mini I have attached to it as a HTPC, where, after "upgrading" to Big Sur or Monterrey, suddenly Apple just up and decided to drop 1080i resolution support (the TV only supports 1080i, not 1080p). The weakest link, in terms of longevity, is always t…

You have undercut your case here. The TV works and had not been upgraded. The mac mini works if you did not upgrade it. The weakest link is doing an upgrade, it does not matter which hardware.

I think it’s unreasonable that Apple sold a device that is capable of displaying 1080i and then disabled it in a software update. Doing stuff like that encourages users to not update and leave themselves vulnerable to security threats.

Re: My first attempt at iOS app development

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Post by ryandrake »

socalgal2 wrote: post #74
ryandrake wrote: post #49

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I think it’s weird how confused people get when you suggest a 9 year old electronic device should work. Every computer in my house is over 10 years old. My A/V receiver and home theater speakers are 15 years old. My TV is 18 years old. My electronic thermostat is 11 years old. While they no longer receive firmware updates, they all continue to work as well as they worked on the day I bought them. For some reason, nob…

I am sympathetic to the argument/feeling that somethings last a long time therefore all things should last a long time. > What is so special about phones where we allow them to be considered obsolete so quickly? The phone / computer works exactly as it did when you bought it. What changed is everything around it. That's not true of those other things. New video codex, new services, new sites, new apps. Let's pick Cha…

> The phone / computer works exactly as it did when you bought it. What changed is everything around it.

I consider that "everything around it" (The Ecosystem, as they say) to be part of the product I bought. When I bought my OldPhone N years ago, I could go to the app store and download versions X, Y, and Z of apps A, B, and C, and they worked. I expect today that if I factory reset that OldPhone back to fresh, I'd still be able to re-download those compatible versions of those apps, and that those apps continued to work as they did N years ago (barring some obvious, but still unfortunate cases like companies going out of business or turning down online services). That's my bar for "working."

If the world moves on, and people are sharing image formats that my phone was never able to read in the first place, or writing web pages my browser was never able to render correctly, then I have to accept that. But what I don't accept is the device manufacturer, or (usually the case) 3rd party apps telling me "your phone is too old, and we're no longer going to let you use it as you have for the last N years anymore!"

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Post by cAtte_ »

jacobp100 wrote: post #94

I do iOS dev as a side-hobby too ( https://jacobdoescode.com/ ) People are right it isn’t anywhere near a salary, but I have fun and it has opened job opportunities too For marketing, I found /r/Apple very receptive to self promotion posts - just make sure you meet the criteria. You can also do a discount period and advertise on /r/AppHookup. Last Black Friday I reduced a $2 to 29c (lowest allowed price) and made jus…

what a beautiful website

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Post by adamwk »

ryandrake wrote: post #135
socalgal2 wrote: post #74

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I am sympathetic to the argument/feeling that somethings last a long time therefore all things should last a long time. > What is so special about phones where we allow them to be considered obsolete so quickly? The phone / computer works exactly as it did when you bought it. What changed is everything around it. That's not true of those other things. New video codex, new services, new sites, new apps. Let's pick Cha…

> The phone / computer works exactly as it did when you bought it. What changed is everything around it. I consider that "everything around it" (The Ecosystem, as they say) to be part of the product I bought. When I bought my OldPhone N years ago, I could go to the app store and download versions X, Y, and Z of apps A, B, and C, and they worked. I expect today that if I factory reset that OldPhone back to fresh, I'd…

I’m confused, that is how it works. If a developer increases their target version to say iOS 18, a user running iOS 16 would be able to download the last app version that supported it, even after factory resets. If the third party developer dropped support for APIs or whatever to break that version, it’d be broken regardless to whether or not you had the app downloaded already.

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Post by ryandrake »

adamwk wrote: post #137
ryandrake wrote: post #135

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> The phone / computer works exactly as it did when you bought it. What changed is everything around it. I consider that "everything around it" (The Ecosystem, as they say) to be part of the product I bought. When I bought my OldPhone N years ago, I could go to the app store and download versions X, Y, and Z of apps A, B, and C, and they worked. I expect today that if I factory reset that OldPhone back to fresh, I'd…

I’m confused, that is how it works. If a developer increases their target version to say iOS 18, a user running iOS 16 would be able to download the last app version that supported it, even after factory resets. If the third party developer dropped support for APIs or whatever to break that version, it’d be broken regardless to whether or not you had the app downloaded already.

I'm pretty sure what I've seen is: If you backup and restore your apps, the version you previously had gets copied back over. But, if you wipe and try to re-download, only the versions that the developer has up on the AppStore are available to you, and if none of them support your OS, you're hosed. This is definitely true if you set up the device with a new account.

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Post by pabs3 »

ryandrake wrote: post #49
xnyan wrote: post #44

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I had to respond, not because I think you are wrong, but because I have had almost exactly the opposite experience and conclusions from you apparently. > iPhone 7 I still have one as a TV device for me and my son to watch paw patrol. I can only speak for the set of apps I use on it, but as of a few hours ago they all still work (streaming, email, browser. no banking or other apps in that class). I am looking to repla…

I think it’s weird how confused people get when you suggest a 9 year old electronic device should work. Every computer in my house is over 10 years old. My A/V receiver and home theater speakers are 15 years old. My TV is 18 years old. My electronic thermostat is 11 years old. While they no longer receive firmware updates, they all continue to work as well as they worked on the day I bought them. For some reason, nob…

> My TV is 18 years old.

Here they have turned off analog TV signals over a decade ago, and the national broadcaster are about to turn off standard definition digital TV signals in favour of high definition.

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