Not in the US. Property owners do not own the airspace above their property.
Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?
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#132Not in the US. Property owners do not own the airspace above their property.
Not entirely true. I believe there are laws determining how high you own. I believe it's 100' for my state.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
With all the money behind it that’s probably going to a criminally punished similar to hijacking a goods truck n the highway.
What will be legal is to simply sue the owner of the drone for breaking your window when your neighbor shot it down. Let the owner and the neighbor sort it out if the owner can prove the neighbor shot it down. But until that proof is forthcoming, the owner is liable. Same as any plane crash. Oh, and Heaven help the owner if any humans or pets in the house are injured. After a while, that will get so expensive that ei…
that's a good fantasy. but here's how I think it would play-out in reality:
* your new window was $1800, so even with treble damages, it's still under $10k, which means it is a small claims issue.
* sue AMZN (or some subcontractor/"third party") in small claims, they don't show up. you get a default judgement
* good luck collecting. the moment you do, they start denying it on technical grounds. Oh you were a prime member in 2018, remember when you agreed to settle all disputes in mediation? well, we remember.
* Go to mediation, they find that your neighbor is culpable for the accident, rules 100% against you. Or better yet, they refuse to engage with you because your neighbor won't agree to be bound by the arbitration.
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#135Not in the US. Property owners do not own the airspace above their property.
The article isn't about the US.
However, even the US, that isn't entirely true.
United States v. Causby (1946) sets the precedent that property owners own the airspace above their property to (at least) 83 feet.
The FAA has exclusive sovereignty over "navigable airspace", which is considered a public highway. This navigable airspace generally begins at 500 feet above the surface in uncongested areas and 1000 feet above the highest obstacle in congested areas. Aircraft flying within this navigable airspace are generally not considered to be trespassing.
There is a "gray area" between the immediate airspace controlled by the landowner and the federally controlled navigable airspace. While the FAA asserts its authority to regulate all airspace, including this lower stratum, the exact delineation of private airspace rights within this zone, particularly concerning new technologies like drones, is not clear.
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I remember growing up in the rural midwest, people with bitch about Ultra light aircraft. It’s just a glider with an engine strapped to it. They’re super noisy and fly low to the ground (relatively speaking), so they annoy people who like the peace and quiet of the countryside. They’ve been around for a lot longer than drones
Ultralights are pretty rare compared to drones. From a safety standpoint, they have a little more skin in the game than a drone operator.
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#137In my neighborhood (rural) a drone hovering over someone's property would be likely used as target practice. If delivery drones become commonplace, there are going to have to be regulations about which air corridors they can use (altitude and routes) or it will be chaos.
For what it's worth, shooting at aircraft (including drones) is a federal offense, and the FAA takes that one pretty seriously. Drones also have cameras.
whats sad is that in many jurisdictions, it's perfectly legal to shoot animals on your property, including other peoples' pets. In my home state, there was recently an issue where a neighbors dog dug under the fence or otherwise got into the back yard, in a residential suburban neighborhood. The property owner blasted it (with a gun) and there was nothing the DA could do. It made the news due to the outrageous use of force, but no charges were filed.
What a time to be alive: mess with Uncle Bezos' trillion-dollar empire for appropriating your property? arrested with federal charges. kill a family pet? nothing we can do.
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#138Aside: It's going to be a great time when the crows, raccoons, and other semi-intelligent wildlife discover that these drones have food in them at seemingly random reward schedules. Sure, you can give the drones little tasers to keep the animals away, depending on your locality. But knowing what I know about bears and crows, almost nothing is going to stop them. Especially when some influencer jerk tries tempting a b…
Crows are smart, and seem to for relationship with "friendly" humans, and are "trainable".
I wonder how long it'd take to befriend a few crows, and teach them there's valuable stuff in delivery drones?
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#139Not in the US. Property owners do not own the airspace above their property.
The article isn't about the US. However, even the US, that isn't entirely true. United States v. Causby (1946) sets the precedent that property owners own the airspace above their property to (at least) 83 feet. The FAA has exclusive sovereignty over "navigable airspace", which is considered a public highway. This navigable airspace generally begins at 500 feet above the surface in uncongested areas and 1000 feet abo…
There's a medflight helicopter pad not far from my place out in the country. It's just a small concrete pad on a lot and when it is dispatched it ascends straight up to what I'd guessed was 300' but could easily be 500' before taking off towards its destination. Landings are similar.
I always thought it looked weird but now I wonder if it's because it's largely surrounded by private property.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US, shooting a drone is the same as shooting an aircraft and that means federal law enforcement attention, especially when the drone is owned by one of the largest, richest companies in the world, with lots of data and video footage.
I’d be interested to see how that changes if you launch a net Any drone I would be able to pick off with a firearm would have to be low and slow enough for me to capture it with less violent means. Then I’m not shooting anything. I’m seizing property that shouldnt be here like I would a kids frisbee or a an abandoned vehicle. They’re free to ask nicely for it to be returned
I’d be interested to see how that changes if you launch a net
Again, it is an aircraft. Ask yourself that same question, only substitute “Cessna” for “drone”.