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Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by olalonde »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #104
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #69

So, you can assign github issues to this thing, and it can handle them, merge the results in, and mark the bug as fixed? I kind of wonder what would happen if you added a "lead dev" AI that wrote up bugs, assigned them out, and "reviewed" the work. Then you'd add a "boss" AI that made new feature demands of the lead dev AI. Maybe the boss AI could run the program and inspect the experience in some way so it could dem…

I believe I missed the memo that to-do apps[1] got replaced by note-taking apps. 1. https://todomvc.com

At this rate, they're both getting replaced by "coding agent". There seems to be a new one coming out every other day.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by seunosewa »

jacob019 wrote: post #72
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #69

So, you can assign github issues to this thing, and it can handle them, merge the results in, and mark the bug as fixed? I kind of wonder what would happen if you added a "lead dev" AI that wrote up bugs, assigned them out, and "reviewed" the work. Then you'd add a "boss" AI that made new feature demands of the lead dev AI. Maybe the boss AI could run the program and inspect the experience in some way so it could dem…

It's actually a decent patern for agents. I wrote a pricing system with an anylyst agent, a decision agent, and a review agent. They work together to make decisions that comply with policy. It's funny to watch them chatter sometimes, they really play their role, if the decision agent asks the anylyst for policy guidance it refuses and explains that it's role is to analyze. Though they do often catch mistakes that way…

Is the code available?

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by black3r »

_pdp_ wrote: post #9

The copy though: "Spend your time doing what you want to do!" followed by images of play video games (I presume), ride a bicycle, read a book, and play table tennis. I am cool with all of that but it feels like they're suggesting that coding is a chore to be avoided, rather than a creative and enjoyable activity.

Also implying I wouldn't want to fix bugs or colleague's code, those are the things I love most about being a developer. Also I don't mind version bumping at all and the only reason why I "don't like" writing tests is that writing "good" tests is the hardest thing for me in development (knowing what to test for and why, knowing what to mock and when, the constant feeling that I'm forgetting an edge case...) and AI still sucks at these parts of writing tests and probably will for a while...

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by thecupisblue »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #112
miki123211 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The method absolutely does work , but you need loyal advocates who are praising your product to their friends, or preferrably users who are already knocking on your door.

They have a name for these people: Google Developer Experts (in reality: "Evangelists"). https://developers.google.com/community/experts

Oh god, the GDE program. That title used to mean something, i.e. this person is a real expert in the topic.

Now it's just thrown to anyone who's willing enough to spam linkedin/twitter with Google bullshit and suck-up to the GDE community. Think everyone in the extended Google community got quite annoyed with the sudden rise in number of GDE's for blatantly stupid things.

This pops up especially if you're organising a conference in a Google-adjacent space, as you will get dozens of GDE's applying with talks that are pretty much a Google Codelab for a topic, without any real insights or knowledge shared, just a "lets go through tutorial together to show you this obscure google feature". And while there are a lot of good GDE's, in the last 5-6 years there has been such an influx of shitty ones that the program lost it's meaning and is being actively avoided.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by noduerme »

falcor84 wrote: post #47
noduerme wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But did you memorize that quote, or was it sufficient to know its gist so you could google it?

Oh definitely the latter. My memory is too far gone from a lifetime of reading. May the next generation avoid my dire fate.

I mean, that's all any of us needs. It's an honorable quote.

I know you're not trying to draw any parallels between Plato's admonition on written thoughts supplanting true knowledge and the justifiable concerns about automated writing tools supplanting the ability of writers to think. To a modern literate, Plato's concern is legible but so patently ridiculous that one could only deploy it as a parody and mockery of the people who might take it as a serious proof that philosophers were wrong about modern tools before. I was obviously just kiddin about whether you googled it. Unfortunately, now a whole new generation is about to use it to justify how LLMs are just being maligned the way written language once was.

Socrates was wrong on this. But Plato was kind of an asshole for writing it down. The proof of both is that we can now google the quote, which is objectively funny. The trouble with LLMs, I guess, is that they would just attribute the quote to your uncle Bob, who also said that cats are a good source of fiber, and thus the whole project started when the words were put in parchment ends with a blizzard of illegible scribbles. If writing was bad for true understanding, not-writing is where humanity just shits its pants.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by noduerme »

-__---____-ZXyw wrote: post #58
noduerme wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But did you memorize that quote, or was it sufficient to know its gist so you could google it?

But are you filled with wisdom, or with the conceit of wisdom?

Niether. I'm just filled with half baked knowledge that I have to check a lot on wikipedia.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by oytis »

wmf wrote: post #86
itchyjunk wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about "VC" AI that wants a unicorn? :D

We have been informed that VC is the only job AI cannot do.

Why not? VCs manage investors' money, not their own. If investors think AI is so great, they will have no problem delegating this job to AI, right?

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by _ink_ »

jwr wrote: post #107
111111101101 wrote: post #43

I was interested. Clicked the try button and just another wait list. When will Google learn that the method that worked so well with Gmail doesn't work any more. There are so many shiny toys to play with now, I will have forgotten about this tomorrow.

And if you don't sign up quickly after your turn in the queue comes up, you might miss the service altogether, because Google will have shut it down already.

And if you are from Germany you can't even join the list. First I needed to verify it is really me. Get a confirmation code to my recovery mail. Get a code to my cell phone number. And than all I got is a service restricted message.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by xarope »

Rodeoclash wrote: post #79
_pdp_ wrote: post #9

The copy though: "Spend your time doing what you want to do!" followed by images of play video games (I presume), ride a bicycle, read a book, and play table tennis. I am cool with all of that but it feels like they're suggesting that coding is a chore to be avoided, rather than a creative and enjoyable activity.

Should have had a food delivery rider.

cue snowcrash, enter stage right, Hiro Protoganist...

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by nsteel »

oytis wrote: post #137
wmf wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have been informed that VC is the only job AI cannot do.

Why not? VCs manage investors' money, not their own. If investors think AI is so great, they will have no problem delegating this job to AI, right?

I think it was a joke, VCs are happy to replace all jobs except their own.
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