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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by flutas »

titzer wrote: post #18

I have these same AR glasses and I really like them. The one downside is that they don't seem to handle heat too well--they'll crash if I run them in full sunlight for more than a few minutes. Also, they are not really AR--they are just a floating screen, and supposedly there is motion-tracking hardware, but no software. That's OK; a big floating screen that is fixed to my head is actually good. In full sunlight I th…

> I have these same AR glasses and I really like them. The one downside is that they don't seem to handle heat too well--they'll crash if I run them in full sunlight for more than a few minutes.

Yup, I found laying my head on the left side where the cord comes it also causes them to overheat quick. My solution is to always lay on the right hand side of them and I actually put some stick on heatsinks on the left "leg" body that also really helps keep them more comfortably cool.

Also weird quirk with them and USB-C I've found.

If you plug them in to a macbook it's 50/50 if they work or just turn on the tint. If that happens, rotating the USB-C plug causes them to work.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by fzzzy »

hansmayer wrote: post #63
fzzzy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain why you don't think you would be productive outside?

Well I guess for a lot of people it would be self-explanatory, but if I go outside to a park, or to a coffee-shop, or whatever - I go there to enjoy myself, not work. Apart from that, I would not really have the ergonomic benefits of my controlled working environment, not to mention bugs, people walking by, random noise or whatever it is.

Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining. I'm not sure if I could work in public like this but I am interested to find out.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by RestartKernel »

Good read, this is one of those things I've considered doing myself, but never committed to. Having someone describe the experience in such detail is very much appreciated.

> RAM usage often gets close to that 12GB ceiling.

Unused memory is wasted memory. Just because you're almost maxing out those 12 gigabytes doesn't mean you'd be in trouble with less.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by johnh-hn »

daniel_reetz wrote: post #119
johnh-hn wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I've been worried about. I have lens implants so I already have a fixed focus as well. The combination of the two would likely be a problem.

In a VR headset the virtual screen distance is set by the distance of the microdisplay from the lens in the headset. It's not crazy to think you could move the microdisplay position and get a virtual display at 6". There might be other optical consequences (aberrations, change in viewable area) but in principle it can work.

I'd be open to trying something like this. It might be the kind of simple solution that would work for me.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by flutas »

tomaskafka wrote: post #79

Wow, I had little idea the readily available tech is this far > Termux, which is an Android app that provides a mix of terminal emulator, lightweight Linux userland, and set of packages that are able to run in that environment. Tim Cook, I know what you know (and fear losing Mac sales to iPad and iPad sales to iPhone, so you want them nerfed), but this would make me upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro. I’d love to be able to le…

> Tim Cook, I know what you know (and fear losing Mac sales to iPad and iPad sales to iPhone, so you want them nerfed), but this would make me upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro.

Can check out side-loading UTM using AltStore or a local dev account.

https://docs.getutm.app/installation/ios/

You do lose JIT support in newer iOS though.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by johnh-hn »

mh- wrote: post #120
johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

Not an answer to your question, but re: monitor arms.. mine can be pulled out far enough it would touch my face. It mounts into a grommet drilled into my desk. I assume there's other reasons this isn't workable for you, but if it's for lack of finding a suitable arm, let me know and I'll find a link for you. My other recommendation would be to consider a standing desk. Even if you prefer to use it sitting, you can tw…

That's kind of you to offer, and I'd appreciate that if you wouldn't mind. I have seen some that are a bit longer, but the height is too low for them to be of use.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by hiatus »

twism wrote: post #93
8note wrote: post #74

with the gen ai cli tools, i think if i go all in, i could skip lugging my laptop around. theres some UX warts to phones where i think i need a keyboard for tab, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+d, delete, and so on, that arent in gboard, but i think it could be a fun side project to design and build a tiny mechanical keyboard that only had those buttons i need im running the newer pixel fold, so ive already got a ton of screen…

I forked Hacker's Keyboard so it would work on newer versions of Android and some other customization for GNU Screen shortcuts. That with another personally forked ConnectBot (SSH client) and I do 95% of my hobby clojure (tersness helps) programming on my pixel.

Would you be willing to share your fork?

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by dTal »

Waterluvian wrote: post #127
inatreecrown2 wrote: post #117

What I always wonder about with these Headsets is how can this not damage your eyes, focusing them at such short distance for prolonged periods. Anybody with experience in using such a device would like to comment on this?

So this is probably a silly question but… can’t you fool your eyes into focusing at any distance you want if you’ve got a stereo screen at a fixed distance (ie a headset)? Isn’t this just a function of the parallax when rendering both screens?

Focus is distinct from convergence - convergence is how much you have to cross your eyes to look at something, but focus is where muscles squish and stretch your eyeballs to change the distance of your retinas from your pupils. Just like a camera, if your eye is not focused at the real distance to subject, it will look blurry because your pupil is not a perfect pinhole, but has area (so a single eye is already seeing the same object from slightly different angles, on either side of the pupil).

Usually your brain learns a strong correspondence between focus and convergence, but this can be unlearned quite easily, and indeed must be in order to view e.g. VR, 3D films, Magic Eye pictures, etc... - all of which encode 3D information through convergence, while requiring your eyes to focus on a fixed plane.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by hiatus »

asdev wrote: post #84
aaronscott wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have an ultrawide mode available now. Personally I find it very uncomfortable. You have to move your whole head to see the sides, and the vision pro is heavy. Looking off to the side for a length of time is uncomfortable.

you would have to do the same thing with an ultrawide monitor, minus the weight of the AVP

Not if it's curved.
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