It's interesting how Amazon is embedding robots in human-designed warehouses whereas Ocado has humans overseeing a robotic warehouse. The later is a much easier problem.
Symbotic also has a fascinating solution.
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consumerism can be avoided regardless of right to repair legislation. We just stop buying shit we don’t really need which is most of what people buy on Amazon I imagine.
If your argument begins with "people should just..." then generally you've already lost the argument. The fact is that people aren't doing whatever you're suggesting, for whatever reason, and no amount of righteous indignation is going to suddenly make people change that. I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that. In…
sounds like you are saying that "people should just" stop making that argument and that "people should just" pass legislation.
Most of what you said can be applied reflexively.
Humans will and agency is the foundation of society. It is required to pass legislation or taxes as well.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consumerism can be avoided regardless of right to repair legislation. We just stop buying shit we don’t really need which is most of what people buy on Amazon I imagine.
If your argument begins with "people should just..." then generally you've already lost the argument. The fact is that people aren't doing whatever you're suggesting, for whatever reason, and no amount of righteous indignation is going to suddenly make people change that. I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that. In…
> I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that.
You can assume that that’s the kind of person you’re conversing with but you’d be wrong.
I agree with you on taxing things to account and pay for externalities.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incredibile! Also, from the comments: "My favorite thing about this is how 2 weeks after this video went up, they had an accident where two robots collided and caused a gigantic fire that cost them like 50 million dollars."
Meanwhile, the warehouse down the road underwent a strike that put them out of commission for weeks, forced expensive wage concessions, and incurred NRLB fines, costing them like... 60 million dollars. One of these things can be fixed, the other will always be a risk as long as humans are involved.
Those peaky humans and their stupid quality of life needs!
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Ocado did run into multiple fire issues due to these robots colliding with each other. In 2019 and 2021 [1] Wonder if the matter has been resolved. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57883332
I'm curious how Amazon handles fire in the midst of their Kiva pods. Do they have procedures for retasking an army of robots to clear a path for humans to get access?
If there are really no humans there they could just fill the warehouse with nitrogen or something. No fire!
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incredibile! Also, from the comments: "My favorite thing about this is how 2 weeks after this video went up, they had an accident where two robots collided and caused a gigantic fire that cost them like 50 million dollars."
Meanwhile, the warehouse down the road underwent a strike that put them out of commission for weeks, forced expensive wage concessions, and incurred NRLB fines, costing them like... 60 million dollars. One of these things can be fixed, the other will always be a risk as long as humans are involved.
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#137Are companies designing product packaging to be more compatible with robotic handling?
Anecdotally, I know of 2 examples of friends who work in traditional manufacturing who have changed packaging graphics and colors because their previous designs were difficult for optics.
Specifically, both of them had to stop using black-colored boxes and move graphics in from box boundaries.
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#138Henry Ford famously wanted his workers to be able to afford his cars. When Bezos replaces everyone with robots, who will be left to buy his junk?
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#139Henry Ford famously wanted his workers to be able to afford his cars. When Bezos replaces everyone with robots, who will be left to buy his junk?
UBI FTW :)
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your argument begins with "people should just..." then generally you've already lost the argument. The fact is that people aren't doing whatever you're suggesting, for whatever reason, and no amount of righteous indignation is going to suddenly make people change that. I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that. In…
sounds like you are saying that "people should just" stop making that argument and that "people should just" pass legislation. Most of what you said can be applied reflexively. Humans will and agency is the foundation of society. It is required to pass legislation or taxes as well.
At the risk of splitting hairs, I was suggesting that people "promote the right to repair" more and not necessarily "pass legislation". While I agree that it's a good goal to buy less plastic junk, the subject probably needs more of a positive narrative behind it to gain traction. Repairability is a positive way to look at our stuff (eg speed queens and Toyotas last forever!). Plastic junk is a negative.