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iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by bigyabai »

Vicinity9635 wrote: post #121
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #97

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> Apple is generally on the side of customers, I'm not convinced; Planned obsolescence, repair issues, phone-home privacy issues, vendor lock-in, etc Apple is certainly innovative which helps consumers, but that's about it. The rest is bare minimum for the price point.

Apple maps, "Intelligence", siri, etc all run on device because Apple is in the market of selling devices. As many as they can. Whereas google is in the market of selling you to advertisers. It's literally a major difference in their fundamental business models.

Apple does both. Under Tim Cook, services have become nearly as profitable as hardware, and the price of making services compared to hardware is comically low. That's why we have AppleTV and Apple News and Apple Arcade, for all they're worth as a motley crew of subscriptions.

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Post by bigyabai »

burnerthrow008 wrote: post #109
lurk2 wrote: post #75

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Off the top of my head: - Substantially poorer performance - Keyboard is less accurate - YouTube videos can’t be played on the lock screen without some tricks - Apple Maps (it is basically at parity now, however). - Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button - The storage bug - No option for manual cache clearing - SMB protocol doesn’t work with Windows and doesn’t display error messages - File transfers are substa…

> - YouTube videos can’t be played on the lock screen without some tricks Waiwaiwait. Hold the phone. That’s GOOGLE’s decision, not Apple’s. This whole thread is a circle jerk about how Apple doesn’t let developers do what they want. It’s a general purpose computer and all that. This is an example of what happens when Apple doesn’t prevent developers from doing something anti-consumer.

FWIW iOS users could write a workaround if they were allowed to sideload, like Android users did: https://newpipe.net/

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Post by denkmoon »

adityamwagh wrote: post #113
redczar wrote: post #108

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Yes. I don’t think Apple is a saint. I think it understands that forcing consumer friendly practices for its customers makes sense especially if they get paid to do so.

Making people pay more on Apple devices for the same service is customer friendly?

I go to Settings, I go to my Apple account, I go to subscriptions, and I press 1 button to cancel the subscription and 1 button to confirm that's what I want to do and the end date. Unless I know I want the subscription effectively forever, I subscribe through apple so I can do this.

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Post by mvid »

goosedragons wrote: post #3
havaloc wrote: post #2

If Apple eventually wins their appeal think among how hard it will be to put the genie back in the bottle.

Gonna be a looot of apps refusing to update.

Apple will happily have you audit and pay them 30% on those external sales

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #126
redczar wrote: post #119

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Try cancelling Prime. Then try buying something from Amazon without them trying to trick you into a Prime membership. Amazon sucks. Also its return policies over the years have gotten quite obtuse for physical goods in my experience.

I have canceled Prime. It was a straightforward process. Orders go the way they usually do. There is a call to get Prime, but it's not like it's occupying a place where something else would normally be if you had Prime.

> I have canceled Prime. It was a straightforward process.

If you had cancelled Prime any time before mid-2023, you would not say this. Because if you had, you'd know Amazon Prime requires four successive cancellation screens where they change the position of the correct button to press each time. (And then a button which if you press immediately resubscribes you.)

Amazon itself referred to its cancellation process as Project Illiad: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/ftc-sues-amazon-...

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Post by Spooky23 »

adityamwagh wrote: post #113
redczar wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I don’t think Apple is a saint. I think it understands that forcing consumer friendly practices for its customers makes sense especially if they get paid to do so.

Making people pay more on Apple devices for the same service is customer friendly?

Try canceling prime. Then try canceling any Apple platform subscription.

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Post by brewdad »

9283409232 wrote: post #94
mrkpdl wrote: post #72

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This is a misconception. For most Apple users it isn’t about status, it’s just the brand they use because they like the products and the way they work together. That doesn’t mean they don’t wish they were better in many ways (including this one).

It can be both. Like the whole green bubble vs blue bubble thing in iMessage. More people than you might think look at Apple as the status brand but that doesn't mean they don't also enjoy how well everything works together.

An iPhone isn't a status symbol anymore, if it ever was. I see 12 year olds with them because they still work long after the phone's previous owner grabbed the shiny new one.

Maybe having the newest model the week it comes out confers some status amongst those who can tell the difference. Everyone else just slaps a case on it and no one knows what generation you have.

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Post by chrisoverzero »

lurk2 wrote: post #75
wordofx wrote: post #25

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How is it worse? It’s better now for me than years ago.

Off the top of my head: - Substantially poorer performance - Keyboard is less accurate - YouTube videos can’t be played on the lock screen without some tricks - Apple Maps (it is basically at parity now, however). - Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button - The storage bug - No option for manual cache clearing - SMB protocol doesn’t work with Windows and doesn’t display error messages - File transfers are substa…

> - Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button

Sure it does. It’s labeled “Copy Translation”. It’s the first button under the translation for un-editable text.

> - Multitasking (apps should shut down after some time spent idle, instead they have to be manually closed)

Apps that aren’t working in the background shut down effectively as soon as they lose focus. Don’t let the list of screenshots fool you – those aren’t running. Don’t waste your time swiping them away.

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Post by brewdad »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #67
threeseed wrote: post #57

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a) It's 15% for most developers. b) Buying a product through IAP is one click. Versus having to go to a signup page, provide details, enter credit card details, wait for credit card verification flows etc. The drop off in conversions during this can be often greater than 15%. c) Apple's centralised subscription management has been extremely useful and consumer friendly. Versus having to now deal with NY Times style s…

Now calculate the drop off every time someone saw the prompt: “Please confirm your Apple ID password.” I’m sure it’s substantial over the years. As for point C, I really don’t care, every monopoly has had at least some advantages. We could make this even better by giving Visa a monopoly and having them build a web portal.

You can turn that prompt off if it bothers you.

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Post by wordofx »

lurk2 wrote: post #75
wordofx wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it worse? It’s better now for me than years ago.

Off the top of my head: - Substantially poorer performance - Keyboard is less accurate - YouTube videos can’t be played on the lock screen without some tricks - Apple Maps (it is basically at parity now, however). - Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button - The storage bug - No option for manual cache clearing - SMB protocol doesn’t work with Windows and doesn’t display error messages - File transfers are substa…

> - Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button

Just selected text. Pressed translate. It says “copy translation”…

Opened up image. Translated text. Pressed copy translation.

> Keyboard is less accurate

I actually find androids default keyboard less accurate when typing or using the predictive text. I use the swipe to text all the time on iPhone.

> - Multitasking (apps should shut down after some time spent idle, instead they have to be manually closed)

lol no

> - No option for manual cache clearing

Never needed to clear cache?

It sounds like you just don’t like apple to be honest. Finding things to nitpick. I have a pixel phone and iPhone so I can do testing and while I have no issues with the pixel. I much prefer iOS. It just works, feels more consistent, and the phone is faster than the pixel despite it being a iPhone 13. It’s still as fast as when I bought it, while the pixel just feels slow compared to when I bought it a year ago, and it’s mainly used for testing…

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