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DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by Aeolun »

only-one1701 wrote: post #130
Aeolun wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not so much arguing against the rules. It’s following them to the letter when unnecessary. It doesn’t matter that the big boss has said that purchasing a $5 knick-knack is ok. You will have that purchase go through the full procurement process, even up to and including an exhaustive search for (cheaper) alternatives.

I also love to unilaterally determine what is and isn’t necessary.

Are you suggesting that’s a valuable use of time?

I make decisions about such tradeoffs every day.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by tines »

j2kun wrote: post #73
candiddevmike wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who need to see/understand this live in a different reality where uncomfortable things like this are ETL'd into righteous anger towards people they don't like. This is the deep state they've been worried about, this is the boot that will tread on them. EDIT: parent comment was highest ranked comment for the article and is now at the bottom?

A twisted justification for suggesting someone who broke serious laws not face consequences. We live in a nation of laws, whether or not conspiracy-minded individuals prefer to follow them.

All the evidence is contrary to your assertion that we live in a nation of laws.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by int0x29 »

wmf wrote: post #75
twalkz wrote: post #8

> According to a whistleblower complaint filed last week by Daniel J. Berulis, a 38-year-old security architect at the NLRB, officials from DOGE met with NLRB leaders on March 3 and demanded the creation of several all-powerful “tenant admin” accounts that were to be exempted from network logging activity that would otherwise keep a detailed record of all actions taken by those accounts. Feels like a pretty good Occa…

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These aren't rules made by bureaucrats. They are laws written by Congress, a coequal branch of government, in response to the Nixon administration's abuse of executive power

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by bilbo0s »

Aeolun wrote: post #105
j2kun wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A twisted justification for suggesting someone who broke serious laws not face consequences. We live in a nation of laws, whether or not conspiracy-minded individuals prefer to follow them.

> We live in a nation of laws You stopped living in a nation of laws a while ago. Now you live in a nation of might makes right.

We'll see.

The thing about the law in the US, it's slow and heavy. You'll need to be pretty mighty to move it if it catches up to you.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by ThinkBeat »

1. DOGE employees access data they were not supposed to.

This fairly clear.

The story says that DOGE attained access to an account that had huge permissions into what it could see and alter. The person or persons from DOGE may have downloaded 10GB of data. The person may have used this in a manner that is illegal. Or it is illegal to start with. With the understanding that POTUS may or may not be allowed grand such access. (I dont think POTUS can)

2. DOGE employee downloaded code that could be used to use a huge pool of IP addresses, from AWS to bypass forms of throtheling. 3. The code was badly written. 4. The person is a racist

How would a person from DOGE use "unlimited" number of IP adderssess from AWS to hammer and automaticlay screenscape webpage, benefit from it when it came to copying extremly sensetive data from an internal National Labor Relations Board database?

Did 10.000 sessions authenticate to the database at the same time, using AWS UP addresses and scraped the data?

Something is pretty broken if the system with extremly sensetive data is available from external IPs -and- allowing a single account to login 10.0000 times to concurrently scrape data off the interal database?

Of are they saying that this code was adapted to use 10.000/100 IP addresses internal to National Labor Relations Board and scrapes using those?

The automation later noted makes a lot more sense to aid the work.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by Clubber »

hahajk wrote: post #33

I have a theory that "business ethics" is really just "following the law." In capitalism, outside a few select industries like journalism, as long as it's legal you can - and should - do anything to maximize profits. It has turned into (or perhaps always was) the govt's job to set those rules. Now, the govt also has to create rules for itself. So it creates the Privacy Act and layers of beurocratic checks and balance…

>In capitalism, outside a few select industries like journalism, as long as it's legal you can - and should - do anything to maximize profits.

Honestly, if you were around watching the news 30+ years ago, you would notice a stark difference in how news is covered then versus today. You can't really blame them, they are doing what they can to survive, but coverage today much more tabloid than news.

I would say the "fake but accurate," was the death knell, but it might have been sooner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by awesome_dude »

j2kun wrote: post #73
candiddevmike wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who need to see/understand this live in a different reality where uncomfortable things like this are ETL'd into righteous anger towards people they don't like. This is the deep state they've been worried about, this is the boot that will tread on them. EDIT: parent comment was highest ranked comment for the article and is now at the bottom?

A twisted justification for suggesting someone who broke serious laws not face consequences. We live in a nation of laws, whether or not conspiracy-minded individuals prefer to follow them.

Laws are only as strong as the enforcement.

One of the things that is being exposed by the current administration is that, even though the Judiciary is an arm of the government, and supposed to provide a check on the Executive, the reality is that the Executive has the power to pardon anyone it sees fit, voiding the power of the judiciary (the argument is that the ultimate power lies with the voters who can pass their judgement on the Executive, and its use of its powers, by voting them out, hopefully)

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by wat10000 »

hahajk wrote: post #33

I have a theory that "business ethics" is really just "following the law." In capitalism, outside a few select industries like journalism, as long as it's legal you can - and should - do anything to maximize profits. It has turned into (or perhaps always was) the govt's job to set those rules. Now, the govt also has to create rules for itself. So it creates the Privacy Act and layers of beurocratic checks and balance…

The trouble is that money is power, so the people who succeed the most at maximizing profit end up getting a lot of influence over the rules.

In some countries, this is done with outright bribery. Here, we do it with campaign contributions and lobbying and “we’ll create jobs in your district.”

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