Noticed it wasn't on Nixpkgs, so... https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/399843
Defold: cross-platform game engine
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Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#132Ask-HN: Context: Every time a game engine like this pops up I read through the comments noting other engines and various perspectives and criticisms (positive and negative). I have a game-like music composition project I want to pick back up. Media-intensive with a rich isometric/2D environment, with lots of little animations, which need to be synchronized to perfectly-scheduled audio events. I develop fully-feature…
I'm building 2D computer game environments for musical performances and interactive installations. I ended up developing my own little engine. The current iteration is based on:
- SDL2 for input and window management
- OpenGL for rendering
- libpd for sound generation and processing
- RtAudio for audio I/O
- sol2 for Lua bindings
- Qt6 for the tile map editor
I'm not targeting the web, though.
> The audio engine needs to be DAW-level, but, synchronized to graphical elements
Are the sounds generated from game events? In that case, time synchronization between game clock and audio clock is indeed an interesting problem with multiple solutions, each with their own trade-offs.
If the game only acts as the user interface, you can treat it like in a regular DAW.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an awesome license. More products should be source-available like this. This is what sustainable "equitable open source" looks like. It keeps the team that built the product able to monetize, but it does so without harming or killing the community. The community has full access to the code and can modify it, make money from products made with it, and can presumably take over if the originating organization di…
> Matt Mullenweg should have done this instead of throwing a fit Not a choice he had. You cannot relicense GPL code line that. He would have had to write a new system from scratch instead of forking an existing one.
I thought that copyright holders could relicense code however they wanted? I don't think GPL or not is the issue, but whether or not all third-party contributors have assigned the copyright of their contributions to the party trying to relicense. My understanding is that this is often difficult or even impossible in practice to obtain after the fact codebases with large numbers of contributors over the years if signing something ahead of time wasnt't a requirement previously, and I don't have any insight into whether Wordpress is in this situation or not, but I don't think whether the code is GPL or not is relevant to this
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
For an unusual license, it is sort of impressive that this is the only issue folks can come up with in this thread. It does seem like a bit of problem, but it also seems like a very specific thing that could be… cleared up, and then it would be all sorted.
It’s not an actual problem. Games don’t ship with the editing tools from the engine because engine editing tools aren’t suitable for that purpose. That would be like shipping photoshop with your game to allow people to customize their character’s hair color.
Plenty of games have, with the most famous example being Valve's games, which (eventually) ship the same tools Valve uses for game creation.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#135is Teal widely used? https://github.com/teal-language/tl Teal to lua is what typescript to javascript
No, but Luau (which is more of a fork) from the Roblox studio is seeing growing adoption. Notably, it was used for Alan Wake 2.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
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Godot does support consoles, they just choose to move that to third parties. There's community Switch support if you're a registered Switch developer, and W4 Games licenses export plugins. One of the reasons for this is because console plugins can't be developed in the open like the rest of the engine, because the console SDKs are behind NDAs. It's a pretty ridiculous holdover from when consoles were more specialized…
That third party is owned by Godot's leadership and management. Your Godot contributions go towards their pockets.
Here's a list of other 3rd party porters: https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/platform/co...
Stop spreading FUD. It's FOSS. It's like saying contributing to systemd lines the pockets of Red Hat.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
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> You can make proprietary changes to the engine without releasing them (unlike GPL). Why is that a good thing? >You can freely monetize games built with the engine, You'd also be able to do the same if it had a GPL license >and they make some assurances that there won't be a bait-and-switch. If it was licensed under a GPL license you wouldn't need to rely on "some assurances"
Consider the space we're in. For game development you're going to have a lot of developers with a lot of different ideas about how to make a game, all utilizing the same engine. If the engine doesn't come with a feature I need, I'll probably have to code it myself, but seeing as the whole purpose of me making this feature is for my game, then it makes sense that I should be able to keep my game's feature private/prop…
GPL doesn't require you to push a feature/change/etc back to the engine devs, it only requires you to make it available to others. You can just keep your changes in a ZIP file alongside your game's data - which is what a bunch of games built on the GPL releases of id Tech already do.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#138Ask-HN: Context: Every time a game engine like this pops up I read through the comments noting other engines and various perspectives and criticisms (positive and negative). I have a game-like music composition project I want to pick back up. Media-intensive with a rich isometric/2D environment, with lots of little animations, which need to be synchronized to perfectly-scheduled audio events. I develop fully-feature…
I'm building 2D computer game environments for musical performances and interactive installations. I ended up developing my own little engine. The current iteration is based on: - SDL2 for input and window management - OpenGL for rendering - libpd for sound generation and processing - RtAudio for audio I/O - sol2 for Lua bindings - Qt6 for the tile map editor I'm not targeting the web, though. > The audio engine need…
Thanks for this!
I am torn about backing off to focusing on first getting the UX (which is really "the thing") right, and just emitting a MIDI MPE stream. That obviously has some other benefits but there were things I was keen on having low-level control over... but I can get over that maybe...
Ambivalent also about target—really, the iPad is the ideal and canonical target, in terms of what it can and the UX it affords... but I have this possibly unfounded sense that the amount a coding copilot can assist me is somewhat limited inside the Apple ecosystem... :/
EDIT: oh and is your engine something I can look at (or license or...)? :)
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems kind of unfair. There are things that aren't great about lua, and I'm not going to pretend they're not. buuuut... - It's really perfectly ok if you use competently. - There are large complex systems and games built using it (eg. factorio) that show that scaling it is both pragmatic and possible. - It has a big active community. When you compare it some other scripting solutions (boo, unityscript) that were…
FWIW, Factorio is primarily C++, with Lua for mods and map editor.
… space age is a mod.
Obviously any engine will have a lua scripting api written in c++ but if youre somehow casting shade about factorio being a lua success story, youre barking up the wrong tree.
Re: Defold: cross-platform game engine
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What product? They aren't selling anything. Like at all.
This looks similar to the classic "enterprise support" and "distribution" lifestyle business play, which is incredibly sustainable and benefits both the software community as well as the maintainers. From their website: Support [1] page: > Please contact us at business@defold.se for more information on how we can help you publish great games made with Defold. About [2] page: > Product development, marketing, support…
Thanks, I honestly tried looking for that, but I couldn't find it.