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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?

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The Catholic Church. The fourth century. https://www.history.com/articles/history-of-christmas >In the fourth century, church officials decided to institute the birth of Jesus as a holiday. Unfortunately, the Bible does not mention date for his birth (a fact Puritans later pointed out in order to deny the legitimacy of the celebration). >Although some evidence suggests that Jesus' birth may have occurred in the sprin…

Hmm... why would the church in asia have chosen jan 6 as their epiphany date and main celebration of christmas if it were for Saturnalia. These are questions no one can answer, and we all just assume a Euro-centric perspective for little reason.

The earliest references to Epiphany come from the Roman Empire.

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I've spent a fair amount of time studying ancient Sumerian culture and religion as a hobby, and the often repeated claim that "Easter comes from Ishtar" just doesn't hold up to even minimal scrutiny. It's one of those internet factoids that sounds plausible on the surface but completely falls apart under actual historical or linguistic analysis. There's no serious academic support for a connection between the Christi…

But this was about Eostre. Whatever the name meant and wherever it came from, it was pretty clearly the origin of the word "Easter". And there is reasonable evidence of a Germanic goddess with a name something like Eostre or Ostara, related to various Indo-European dawn goddesses, such as Eos, Aurora, and Ushas.

While English “Easter” might’ve had some relation to a Germanic Eostre goddess, the much more clear relation for Christians would be for “austron” as the word for dawn, and the east, etc. Traditionally all churches faced east as Christian’s was supposed to return from the East like the sunrise:

> Old English Easterdæg, "Easter day," from Eastre (Northumbrian Eostre), from Proto-Germanic austron-, "dawn," also possibly the name of a goddess whose feast was celebrated in Eastermonað (the Anglo-Saxon month corresponding with April), from aust- "east, toward the sunrise" (compare east), from PIE root *aus- (1) "to shine," especially of the dawn.

However it’d be inaccurate to infer that Easter is a pagan holiday or something. Rather the medieval Christian missionaries were very adept at building on concepts and repurposing traditions from cultures to help relate the Gospel.

> Today, the problem of pagan parallels does not concern me at all. Here is why: First, even if parallels do exist between the myths of the gods and the resurrection of Jesus, that does not require us to reduce the resurrection to fiction. Such parallels might be—as [C. S.] Lewis observed decades ago—expressions of innate human longings for atonement and new life.

Assume for the sake of argument that Jesus was the incarnation of the immortal creator of the universe, then it would be natural that said creation would have echoes of this event and people would relate to them . It’d actually be a bit incoherent to not relate concepts of spring, renewal, sunrise, as very physical aspects of our human being to such a theology.

1: https://worldviewbulletin.substack.com/p/the-resurrection-an...

Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?

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In Eastern Orthodox churches the main hymn we sing is: > Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing life! [1] It’s sung about a hundred times in Pascha (Easter) liturgy, so _very_ well emphasized in the eastern traditions. Though in eastern churches the emphasis was less on a juridical understanding of the passion wherein Christ fulfilled a legal requirement. R…

I love hearing more about the viewpoint of Coptics, they're seemingly underrepresented in viewpoints in a lot of discussions in the US! Your comments mirror a lot from my Egyptian friends. Thanks for sharing.

I have some Coptic friends as well. They’re fantastic, and very proud of their Coptic heritage.

Alexandria was also very influential in early church theology and one of the primary bishopric “sees”. Interestingly they call their head bishop “pope”.

Also Coptic and Ethiopian iconography are gorgeous. They’re simplistic, almost cartoonish, but very artistic and emotional [1, 2, 3].

1: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5537d482e4b0cd... 2: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/848717492273364910/ 3: https://www.axiawomen.org/wow/holy-week-and-easter-icons

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In many languages "Easter" is a variation of Passover. "Pâques" in French for example, Pascha in Greek and Russian, Pascua in most Latin languages. In others (aome Slavic languages) it's a variation of "Great Day" ("Velikonoce" in Czech for example). " And so on. English and German are the only languages I know with a weird word for Easter. Edit - also Passover is Pesach in Hebrew. So Pesach -> Pascha in Greek, then…

In Croatian, Easter is called Uskrs, meaning Resurrection, but Good Friday is called Veliki Petak, meaning Great Friday.

Same in russian - Velikaya Pyatnica, Great Friday.

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In Polish, it is called "Wielki Piątek" which translates as "Great Friday". Simiarly; the week is "Wielki Tydzień", translates as "Great Week". I always understood it in the similar vein as the Jewish "High Holidays" as the most important observation of the year.

The discrepancy between "Holy Week" and "Good Friday" always irked me when I learned these terms in English.

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I mean, the comment you replied to was flagged and killed. I'm not sure I would call that "getting away with".

In case you are new around here, these things change. When I left my comment, that had not happened and it had been upvoted. What's more, I was referring to a general trend, not just one comment.

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Ummm, Jews don't have Easter. Right now we are in the Chol Hamoed part of Passover/Pesach, with the Chag resuming and sundown tonight and continuing for 2 days.

Yes I don't speak hebrew… It's just called "jewish easter" in my language. And?

In Hebrew, Easter is called "פסחא" which is very similar to Passover, "פסח" (Just an aleph added, and the prounciation changed a bit). However, the holidays have nothing to do with each other, despite Christian attempts to link the Paschal lamb to Jesus.

Nobody would say "The Jews have Easter" because we have no holiday commemerating the ressurection of a messiah. We beleive the messiah has yet to come.

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Yes I don't speak hebrew… It's just called "jewish easter" in my language. And?

In Hebrew, Easter is called "פסחא" which is very similar to Passover, "פסח" (Just an aleph added, and the prounciation changed a bit). However, the holidays have nothing to do with each other, despite Christian attempts to link the Paschal lamb to Jesus. Nobody would say "The Jews have Easter" because we have no holiday commemerating the ressurection of a messiah. We beleive the messiah has yet to come.

Why not use phonetic alphabet if you want to communicate pronunciation?

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I have never been to a Catholic mass that failed to share that message. It's not a subtle detail.

Maybe I'm being less charitable to Catholic churches on that. Truly a lot of Christian churches have failed on their messaging to others from what I've seen, and it's probably not just a Catholic thing. It's not like Joel Osteen is really sharing a truly Christian life and theology. The fact there's a lot of people in this thread with this understanding should point to a lot of people not getting it though. I mean th…

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English-speaking eastern christians call it this too. But every day of holy week is named like that, holy tuesday, holy saturday, etc. Easter/Pascha is the one exception in the week.

At risk of being a pedant, Pascha would not be the exception to Holy Week but rather after the conclusion of Holy Week. The end of week is sundown on Saturday. After Holy Week has ended on Saturday, The Resurrection (i.e. Pascha), occurs on the first day of the week - Sunday. :)

(you are right it is slightly tedious those details, but well done) Overall it seems striking to me that the seven day week itself is one of the enduring and fundamental features of the ancient world that has so thoroughly formed the fabric of modern life in the West and elsewhere.
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