North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

Post by firecall » Tue, Apr 08, 2025, 1:27 PM UTC

plsbenice34 wrote: post #37

throwaway_ab wrote: post #20

A flagged post mentions this is racist and typical anti immigration rhetoric. That's not true, there are only two types of North Korean people you'll meet, either those that have defected and escaped North Korea or those that are agents of the state of North Korea. There are very few defectors in existence and once they escape they're given full South Korean citizenship. This article is not about those people. The va…

What about Australia in comparison? Australians can be legally compelled in secret courts to install backdoors in the companies in which they are employed, and gagged from telling the company itself or any journalists (see the Access and Assistance Bill). That doesn't cross the same 'agents of the state' line?

Post by keybored » Tue, Apr 08, 2025, 3:34 PM UTC

throwaway_ab wrote: post #89

plsbenice34 wrote: post #37

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What about Australia in comparison? Australians can be legally compelled in secret courts to install backdoors in the companies in which they are employed, and gagged from telling the company itself or any journalists (see the Access and Assistance Bill). That doesn't cross the same 'agents of the state' line?

Yeah this is true and a good point. As an Australian when the government passed that law it hurt so much, like a betrayal of enormous magnitude, it's disgusting. I suppose one difference is that I can fight the government legally on the issue and am more free in many ways to resist, especially as I'm not employed by the state. But I do agree, on the scale (0-1?) of how much your government can take away your liberty…

Post by keybored » Tue, Apr 08, 2025, 3:38 PM UTC

rightbyte wrote: post #81

throwaway_ab wrote: post #20

A flagged post mentions this is racist and typical anti immigration rhetoric. That's not true, there are only two types of North Korean people you'll meet, either those that have defected and escaped North Korea or those that are agents of the state of North Korea. There are very few defectors in existence and once they escape they're given full South Korean citizenship. This article is not about those people. The va…

> A flagged post mentions this is racist and typical anti immigration rhetoric. > That's not true, there are only two types of North Korean people you'll meet, [...] Well I see a contradiction here.

Post by SR2Z » Tue, Apr 08, 2025, 3:41 PM UTC

dmurray wrote: post #96

skissane wrote: post #70

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> Australians can be legally compelled in secret courts to install backdoors in the companies in which they are employed, and gagged from telling the company itself or any journalists (see the Access and Assistance Bill). My thoughts on this as an Australian software engineer: how could they possibly “order” me to “install a backdoor”? To change a production system, I need an issue in the issue tracker, I need a PR,…

I suppose you'd do it the same way any North Korean operative would. They'd offer you training on how to bypass the controls. They'd get you to exfiltrate the code and the product roadmap. They'd have someone more skilled suggest a plausible backdoor as part of an innocent change, like the xzutils one. As for how they'd force you, just like any intelligence agency, they'd start with carrots. They'd offer you money, o…

Post by wesselbindt » Tue, Apr 08, 2025, 4:35 PM UTC

cap11235 wrote: post #123

wesselbindt wrote: post #120

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Now you're just arguing semantics. "I hate Ethiopians" is just as problematic as "I hate black people". "Don't trust him, he's from Israel"

To the best of my knowledge, Ethiopia isn't running international crime rings to fund nuclear ambitions.