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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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There's no way it's actually shipping with that name, right?

I'm sure Intel's law firms are drafting a cease & desist as we speak. I'd bet $10 the name changes.

When you apply for a trademark you have to say what type of products/services it involves.

Intel did make a smartwatch for a while, but I don't think it had a Core Due chipset!

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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> If tariffs change dramatically, we will pass these costs along to you and require further payment, even for US orders. Under the "What if the tariff situation changes?" section on https://store.repebble.com/ I was excited and about to purchase one until I saw this "We might not ship the device unless you pay us more" thing. I get that the economy is very up in the air right now in the US, but sucks that seemingly o…

It's good of them to consider this and be transparent, but I don't consider tariffs to be part of the price. The price is the amount the seller gets, not the amount they collect and remit to the government.

As a consumer, the price is whatever I have to pay to receive the product. You seem to be confusing it with revenue.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Everything appears to point that way, yes. This thread is full of people complaining how these aren't like their preferred watches, in terms of design, face shape, no GPS, etc. I think this is a much more valid criticism in that their expensive flagship watch is not like their cheaper watch.

It's kind of weird segmentation, but, given neither has GPS, I wonder how many people who'd seriously consider buying one of these really care about having a compass & barometer. Are those often important features to someone who doesn't care about GPS?

It would be nice to track elevation change/stairs climbed during hiking, even if you don't care about GPS. I'll probably hang onto my old Garmin for exercise though, so this is sorta moot for me. Mostly it was just surprising to see that the pricier one was not a superset of the cheaper one.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I've wanted to play around with a color ePaper watch for a while, including debating buying an old Pebble Time, so this seems like a great excuse to pull the trigger.

For people who have developed apps for them in the past, does everyone just use the embedded JavaScript engine? For maintaining apps that modify the firmware or talk to new peripherals does that require maintaining a fork or is there some module system?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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post #114

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> If tariffs change dramatically, we will pass these costs along to you and require further payment, even for US orders. Under the "What if the tariff situation changes?" section on https://store.repebble.com/ I was excited and about to purchase one until I saw this "We might not ship the device unless you pay us more" thing. I get that the economy is very up in the air right now in the US, but sucks that seemingly o…

That reads to me as what they'll do if the import tariff situation changes, not if the company changes the price themselves. Which seems like a reasonable thing to say given the massive uncertainty around US economic policy at the moment.

I think it's reasonable too, but it also means I don't want to pony up $150 now to potentially have the seller renege and (hopefully) refund me later. I can make use that $150 between then and now.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Whoa didn't see this! What's the language you're referring to? I only saw the part about how either side can cancel without penalty and didn't read a threat of higher pricing into that bit.

> If tariffs change dramatically, we will pass these costs along to you and require further payment, even for US orders. Under the "What if the tariff situation changes?" section on https://store.repebble.com/ I was excited and about to purchase one until I saw this "We might not ship the device unless you pay us more" thing. I get that the economy is very up in the air right now in the US, but sucks that seemingly o…

Funny, aren't you USers used to not knowing what you'll pay for something because the advertised prices don't include sales taxes and administrative fees and whatever fees and service charges and tips that are not service charges?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Nope, but the OS is open source so you could try getting it to work yourself: https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-firmware

Is it actually open source though? The repository description may be outdated then, but it currently says this: > This is the latest version of the internal repository from Pebble Technology providing the software to run on Pebble watches. Proprietary source code has been removed from this repository and it will not compile as-is. This is for information only.

Just a guess, but Nordic pushes a proprietary bluetooth stack. You don't have to use it, but it's the fastest way to get up and running.

edit: not sure they use the proprietary stack... at the very least, it looks like they're in the process of switching to a free BT stack

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'm sure Intel's law firms are drafting a cease & desist as we speak. I'd bet $10 the name changes.

When you apply for a trademark you have to say what type of products/services it involves. Intel did make a smartwatch for a while, but I don't think it had a Core Due chipset!

Yeah but I think that's only a factor in the consideration. I doubt it cancels out identical and very distinct names.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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post #132

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It's good of them to consider this and be transparent, but I don't consider tariffs to be part of the price. The price is the amount the seller gets, not the amount they collect and remit to the government.

As a consumer, the price is whatever I have to pay to receive the product. You seem to be confusing it with revenue.

I think "price" is an imprecise term that could refer to the pre-tax/tariff amount or the post-tax/tariff amount. It would include shipping, if there is no other way to get the device (as is the case here).

But regardless, they're not saying they would increase the "price" (whatever that means), but just that if the tariff situation changes, then the customer will need to pay the additional tariff. This is the same as what would happen if a state increased the sales tax rate and they had to collect and remit additional sales tax. It just so happens that it's unlikely any state is going to sharply increase its sales tax in the next year, but there's a decent chance the tariff rate will jump. If the sales tax went up, I wouldn't consider that to be the company raising the price. Same for tariffs, in my book.

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