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The Future Is Niri

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Re: The Future Is Niri

#131
The _only_ thing I feel Niri still needs is this: https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/discussions/352#discussioncom...

Otherwise it is the perfect endgame UX for me. Regardless of screen size or form factor. I never thought I'd find something that I liked better than i3/sway, but those subtle niri animations, at double speed? On a high refresh rate monitor, w/ amdgpu? Ahh. Chef's kiss <3

Re: The Future Is Niri

#132
post #81

I tried to use niri, but I couldn't get it working on NixOS. That is almost certainly user error on my part, but, as a devoted paperwm user in my gnome days, I'm very much on board with what niri is offering. And since this is a discussion of linux window managers: Currently I'm using hyprland, which is great, but the one I really want to keep maturing is river. It's a very sensible WM that is nonetheless not complet…

> That is almost certainly user error on my part

If an interested and reasonably savvy person can't get a program to work as it claims, the problem is the program, not the user.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#133
post #81

I tried to use niri, but I couldn't get it working on NixOS. That is almost certainly user error on my part, but, as a devoted paperwm user in my gnome days, I'm very much on board with what niri is offering. And since this is a discussion of linux window managers: Currently I'm using hyprland, which is great, but the one I really want to keep maturing is river. It's a very sensible WM that is nonetheless not complet…

> I tried to use niri, but I couldn't get it working on NixOS. Couldn't get what to work? Like, you switch to a VT, run nix-shell -p niri niri and it crashes, or...?

There was, at the time, some sort of issue with the flake. So, really, I couldn't get it running with flakes. I should really try it again.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#134
Niri is RAM efficient. I run Niri in an 8GB VM on Intel Macbook, and on a $99 8GB mini PC. Total RAM usage on boot is less than 400MB with waybar, polkit, ssh-agent, mako ... That's in the ultra lightweight WM category. Compare that to Gnome+paperwm (1.6GB)

There are features Niri sorely needs: 1) 2D overview (zoom in/out), 2) enhanced meta for windows (to create window indicator [1] and window picker)

Re: The Future Is Niri

#135
post #134

Niri is RAM efficient. I run Niri in an 8GB VM on Intel Macbook, and on a $99 8GB mini PC. Total RAM usage on boot is less than 400MB with waybar, polkit, ssh-agent, mako ... That's in the ultra lightweight WM category. Compare that to Gnome+paperwm (1.6GB) There are features Niri sorely needs: 1) 2D overview (zoom in/out), 2) enhanced meta for windows (to create window indicator [1] and window picker)

We're calling 400MB RAM usage ultra-lightweight now? OpenBox needs 7MB of RAM, and there are WMs that are even lighter on memory requirements.

> Compare that to Gnome+paperwm (1.6GB)

Anything seems lightweight if you compare it to a DE well known for its bloat.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#136
I just use gnome with pop-shell (though on arch). Been using it for years and never had issues with it. For me it's always felt nicer to have a tiling wm on top of something like gnome.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#137

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Tiling never worked for me either. Might be because the place I use Linux most is on laptops, where screens are too small to do much tiling aside from maybe splitting the screen in half (and even that doesn’t play nice with things like IDEs). Plain, boring, non-trendy floating WMs/DEs with some lightweight optional tiling has proven most optimal for me.

It’s on laptops where I appreciate tiling the most. Simple hotkey switching between apps (workspaces) is much better than mouse over some taskbar or alt tab tab tab tab.

There are floating WMs with multiple workspaces you can switch between with hotkeys. It's not a feature exclusive to tiling WMs.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#138

I think i3/sway has deceived a lot of people into thinking that tiling means manual tiling. Having to manually split and arrange your windows is not how tiling is supposed to work.

Deceived?

I knew I prefer manual tiling since the very moment I tried wmii. It was the first time tiling made sense to me, and it was a major productivity booster on my 12" laptop. On such small screen I can't care less about all those spiral, bsp and other tiling schemes automatic twms offer.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched the video on the site and this looks like absolute hell, as someone who uses drag-n-drop between programs fairly often. I'm also someone whose open browser tabs tend to grow indefinitely until I just have to bookmark and close all hundred of them or whatever, so... yeah, this entire paradigm looks extremely not for me.

> this looks like absolute hell, as someone who uses drag-n-drop between programs fairly often The way people use it is you constantly reorder windows according to your workflow so DnD is not a problem. > I'm also someone whose open browser tabs tend to grow indefinitely until I just have to bookmark and close all hundred of them or whatever I agree the tab model is an horror. The problem is for most people the tabs…

Another thing I hate especially in firefox is that one can't pin tabs on the right, next to the newest tabs and the new tabs button. So often one has to keep one or two tabs open but otherwise open many new ones to research something.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#140

I just use gnome with pop-shell (though on arch). Been using it for years and never had issues with it. For me it's always felt nicer to have a tiling wm on top of something like gnome.

Gnome is starting on a built-in mosaic layout tiler that looks on the surface similar to newm. newm is sadly no longer actively enhanced.

Cosmic Desktop (creators of pop-shell) is further innovating in this area as well.

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