This could be actually one of good decisions here...
DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
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Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#132Honest question: who are the potential realistic buyers of Chrome? OS vendors already have their own browsers and Chrome doesn't directly make much (any?) money.
No one. Chrome would be bought for pennies on the dollar, and the buyer wouldn't be able to sustain the project.
Google pays many companies tens of billions to make sure Google Search is the default engine on a variety of browsers.
Something tells me a product that can garner billions of dollars will do just fine if sliced away. If Google gives firefox $500million to be the default search at 5% user share, they should pay Chrome $20 billion for the same privilege.
The true damage that should be done is to separate Gmail + workspaces, Maps, Youtube, GCP, Android, and Search as their own separate entities then undo the DoubleClick merger.
That would be true justice.
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#133Here is a question for everybody.
How would you feel if Google shut down Chrome, and created an app called the Google Application Platform. (GAP). The GAP would be the only place you could use Search, Workspace, YouTube, Maps, and every other google website.
What would you think if Google just abandoned the open web entirely.
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#134I think Google should just be split up into baby Google's that each have to cooperate with each other. Like we did with Bell. Also we should do the same thing to Microsoft, Amazon and Facebook. In fact I think we should do it again to AT&T and also Comcast. This should probably be done every so often as maintenance.
I don't understand how this worldview coexists with countries like Russia and China. If the feds kneecap US companies, it's not going to make the next generation of US companies stronger, just cede influence to worse jurisdictions.
Just ban the ones from worse jurisdictions then.
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#135Honest question: who are the potential realistic buyers of Chrome? OS vendors already have their own browsers and Chrome doesn't directly make much (any?) money.
Softbank
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#136Honestly I don't care if Google gets broken up, so long as Apple is first. People complain about whataboutism, but the Apple versus almost any other 'monopoly' is insane. You can switch browsers within the next 30s, you can't install an app from a third party vendor ever on iOS. [1] [1] Yes I know you can pay $100 a year, and then compile your own/open source apps weekly and move them to your device. No this is not a…
You won’t hear that here because HN is notoriously pro Apple for some reason, even though all the evidence points to Apple being the same, if not bigger evil than Google
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The artificial price point for GMail, GDocs, GMeet has killed so much competition. It literally led to the creation of Office 365 and broke open a market that had been closed to competition in the face of an unbreakable Microsoft Monopoly for decades ! That sounds ridiculous on its face. Of all the product areas to complain about Google having a monopoly, you picked the office suite!? HN tends strongly to one side…
Microsoft have always made a point that they can never compete with Google on price of office apps, therefore they try to compete on service, support, and included bells and whistles. This is why when you buy an O365 license you basically get anything Microsoft has ever developed thrown in with it. Office is Microsofts bread and butter, for Google its a side project that disrupts Microsofts business model.
> Microsoft have always made a point that they can never compete with Google on price of office apps, therefore they try to compete on service, support, and included bells and whistles.
So... you're saying the presence in the market of a viable competitor improved the value provided to consumers? Who knew!
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#138Man, I hope they break out Google Business apps. The artificial price point for GMail, GDocs, GMeet has killed so much competition. Try pricing something against this insane dumping price Google sets - there is no TAM, the M does not payback enough to justify the effort. The cross-financing with Ads would finally stop and fair pricing would come.
> The artificial price point for GMail, GDocs, GMeet has killed so much competition. It literally led to the creation of Office 365 and broke open a market that had been closed to competition in the face of an unbreakable Microsoft Monopoly for decades ! That sounds ridiculous on its face. Of all the product areas to complain about Google having a monopoly, you picked the office suite!? HN tends strongly to one side…
>> The artificial price point for GMail, GDocs, GMeet has killed so much competition.
> It literally led to the creation of Office 365 and broke open a market that had been closed to competition in the face of an unbreakable Microsoft Monopoly for decades
Both can be true at the same time. For example Tmobile and Sprint merging led to even more pressure on any new or existing networks that were/are not in the top 4. But it also led to increased competition with Verizon and AT&T.
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would browsers turn to "shit"? The web platform is quite capable these days. I think Chrome on Android is already pretty "shit" these days, because it doesn't support ad blocking at all.
*Points at firefox*
I'm a happy Firefox user on desktop and Android. Can you be more specific?
Re: DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
A level playing field is good. The playing field includes other countries.
Why wouldn't antitrust laws apply to companies from other countries? If you ban tying app stores to phone platforms and then China creates a phone platform and wants to tie an app store to it, they're not any less banned from selling that into your market than a domestic company.
There's a whole world outside the US and China that companies are competing in.