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About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by molticrystal »

muixoozie wrote: post #107
molticrystal wrote: post #74

What is the best way to migrate retaining as much as possible to a fork, like Brave or Iridium, or whatever is probably the best privacy based one with an emphasis on retaining Manifest V2/ ublock support? Already migrated my Firefox to Librewolf, just need to find something for Chrome, as I don't really follow the scene close.

I migrated today as well from Firefox to LibreWolf. I'm curious why you need a chrome based at all? I mean I have ungoogled Chromium on my desktop just in case I want to see if a broken site is only broken for Firefox, but that's rare.

I have a few extensions on Firefox that perform page transformations for privacy and other reasons. Instead of troubleshooting whether a broken site is specific to Firefox (with or without extensions), I often opt to use an incognito Chrome with uBlock Origin for sites where I don't want to mess with configuration and the normal mode of Chrome for the google related websites.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by postepowanieadm »

ffsm8 wrote: post #75
maccard wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> LLMs are much better in searching for information than advertisement-exposure optimized google. Completely disagree. Just this morning I've been trying to search for how to pair a wireless headset that I own to a new receiver. Gemini tells me there is no need to pair the adapter, but if I do need to do it I should press . It also pushes the PDF and TS articles that the manufacturer provides off of my main search wi…

They're better at it if you don't actually care about the truth of the result though. I.e confirming your opinion, compiling a report about something you're not gonna take action on etc

Any different with google results?

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by tim333 »

While I was reading this I had an update and Chrome turned off uBlock origin and bypass paywalls. I was able to to go to manage extensions and turn them on but I guess if that stops working it's on to Firefox.

By the way does anyone know if you can just turn off updates on Chrome and have it keep working in its present state?

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by stvltvs »

jocoda wrote: post #124
xattt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s only a matter of time before the modern Phoebus cartel starts blocking Firefox.

I can live with that. By blocking Firefox they would self identify as user hostile in the same way that google has done with V3. I think this would a huge step forward, a massive shit filter.

A certain amount of websites are mandatory today, like local utilities, employer chosen health insurance, etc. I have to keep Chromium around for some that don't work right with Firefox.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by hosteur »

bad_user wrote: post #127
skinkestek wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best thing we can do to influence it is probably to use and fund forks such as LibreWolf, hoping that they are in a position to continue development once Google decides to tell the manager of Mozilla to finally destroy it completely. (Yes, that is a joke I hope, but if I compare what I think a puppet controlled by Google would do to destroy the Mozilla brand to what Mozillas CEO has been doing, I think there is a lot…

Thinking that funding forks, like LibreWolf, would save said forks from dying if Mozilla goes under, is naive. The development of Firefox costs around half a billion $ per year. Estimates for Chrome range from 1 to 2 billion $ per year. In other words, take the donations of something like Wikimedia, which is arguably very successful in asking for donations, and you'd still be very short on the money needed to fund a…

> The development of Firefox costs around half a billion $ per year.

Are you sure that USD 500 million goes into the development of Firefox each year? Or does it go to funding of questionable Mozilla Foundation projects?

Admittedly, I have not checked the numbers recently but last I looked into it I got the impression that Firefox development was an embarrassingly small amount of what Mozilla spends their money on.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by ayewo »

slig wrote: post #63
KronisLV wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s only a matter of time before the modern Phoebus cartel starts blocking Firefox. I feel like nobody will have to consciously do anything in particular, with the current way how things are going. - Chromium is the modern IE and developers will primarily be on the hook for supporting it, Firefox support will be an afterthought so some sites will just be broken, moving more users over to Chromium. - The Firefox ma…

>Firefox marketshare is dwindling It's basically non-existing already (less than 4% globally) [1] and with basically zero mobile presence. [1]: https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage#top-browsers...

In spite of its dwindling usage, Firefox is still used by more than a 100 million people on desktop.

I posted this comment some days ago [1]:

To put some numbers on what a 2.54% market share means, Firefox actually tracks this data. See here: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity:

> Monthly Active Users (MAU) measures the number of Firefox Desktop clients active in the past 28 days.

> February 10, 2025: 163,203,913 clients

> February 17, 2025: 163,742,671 clients

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43219572

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by hosteur »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #55
h4kor wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO it's only a matter of time before LLMs will include ads. Current pricing isn't covering the costs of running LLMs and brands will pay a high price for being favored in responses.

But how such adverts would look like?

In the beginning there will likely be bad ones that are obvious to spot like explicitly pushing products or services relating to the prompt.

Soon, I expect them to be almost invisible. The LLM will gently be nudging the user towards some products rather than others.

For example, let's say a user asks how to do X. The LLM could then respond with an itemised list of steps to accomplish X. But the steps might involve doing it in a way that would later require services from some company.

Obviously, there is a potential to do this in ways we cannot even imagine yet.

Blocking it using traditional adblocking technologies like uBO will not be possible.

Only solution I see is to run trusted LLMs locally. But it will require some sort of "open source"-like trusted training of those LLMs. I think we need a movement similar to what gave us Wikipedia and Free software in the 90s/00s.

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by hosteur »

HelloUsername wrote: post #91

Already posted and discussed back in august 2024, 45 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41140185

Relevant now as Chrome recently started force-removing/disabling uBlock Origin in Chrome.

(at least is has been force-removed on one of my machines. On another machine, it hasn't happened yet)

Re: About Google Chrome's "This extension may soon no longer be supported" (2024)

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Post by hosteur »

tim333 wrote: post #133

While I was reading this I had an update and Chrome turned off uBlock origin and bypass paywalls. I was able to to go to manage extensions and turn them on but I guess if that stops working it's on to Firefox. By the way does anyone know if you can just turn off updates on Chrome and have it keep working in its present state?

> but I guess if that stops working it's on to Firefox.

It will stop working. Why not get ahead of the curve and move to Firefox now?

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