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I found a backdoor into my bed

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Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by autoexec »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #3

The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…

> The market is clearly too stupid to vote against the rent seeking tech industry. It makes me so sad.

A lot of this bullshit only happens long after the sale has been made and consumers are blindsided when things advertised as free are suddenly paywalled off behind a subscription following a ToS update.

"The market" is never going to solve this. What we need are consumer protections in the form of laws and regulations with real teeth and consistent enforcement.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by Rebelgecko »

moolcool wrote: post #31
EvanAnderson wrote: post #3

The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…

I wonder if there'd be a cottage industry for new control boards which de-shittify IOT devices but keep their functionality. Like buy the bed, and then buy a little pre-programmed ESP32 logic board to replace the factory board.

These do exist for a number of devices. There's actually a number of options for things like alarm systems

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by Freak_NL »

hinkley wrote: post #55
xg15 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting.

I’m still fairly upset that ambient devices never really took off. Nanoleaf at least made a remote like this. It’s a dodecahedron with an accelerometer, so you can program each face with a different setting. The simplest being to program opposing faces for two different light levels. You want to take a nap, turn the controller upside down.

Sounds good until you come home to a house flashing like a Christmas tree because your kid needed another D12 for their table-top role-playing game.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by kibwen »

janpot wrote: post #99
EvanAnderson wrote: post #3

The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…

step one is to stop pretending the market is a democracy

Step two is to stop pretending the market isn't a kakistocracy.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by LoganDark »

electroly wrote: post #105
mimischi wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it more comfortable, then say, an old school analog expensive mattress? I can’t shake the feeling these companies are selling snake oil (that is not to say that old school analog mattresses aren’t overpriced either)

You may be misunderstanding the product--it's a topper that goes on top of your existing mattress. It doesn't replace the mattress. I do indeed have it on top of an old school analog expensive mattress. It cools/warms to the desired temperature without impacting the comfort from the mattress. I don't think there's much room for snake oil here: it pumps cooled or heated water through the mattress topper. There's no my…

How does it feel? I have a nice foam mattress and I'd hate to buy one of these and have it feel like I'm sleeping on a bunch of tubes and plastic rather than foam.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by burnished »

Freak_NL wrote: post #133
hinkley wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m still fairly upset that ambient devices never really took off. Nanoleaf at least made a remote like this. It’s a dodecahedron with an accelerometer, so you can program each face with a different setting. The simplest being to program opposing faces for two different light levels. You want to take a nap, turn the controller upside down.

Sounds good until you come home to a house flashing like a Christmas tree because your kid needed another D12 for their table-top role-playing game.

You see a bug, I see a feature

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Post by lijok »

wedn3sday wrote: post #66

A $20/month bed subscription is objectively hilarious. I cant imagine how this company attracts a non-zero number of clients.

*subjectively.

Once you realize just how important quality sleep is, and how much this can help, $20/month bed subscription becomes a laughably small price to pay.

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