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A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

gitfan86 wrote: post #130
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are conflating anti-Israel / anti-Netanyahu and antisemitism. One of the many lies the right is using these days. I can think Netanyahu is a dangerous person who shouldn't be in power and is causing Israel to be a not great actor on the world stage, and not a damn bit of that has anything to do with Netanyahu's race.

No I'm not, I'm saying that if you want to compare a group to 1930s Germany you should look at the people who defended the Oct 7 attacks and who are against free speech

Should we look at the people who are saying they're going to remove all Palestinians from Gaza and turn it into a resort?

You know, the ones actively saying "let's go do a genocide"?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by staunton »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #35
r0ckarong wrote: post #7

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As intended, then you can blame the previous system for all the failures.

I mean the previous systems do need an overhaul, but that should be and is being done slowly and meticulously. The SpaceX people - whoever they are - will have the credentials to design a new system I'm sure, but probably not without breaking things for years to come. And they can't just rip it out and replace it, that would likely cripple airlines. Which may be by design of course, but why would they want their own…

> breaking things

You mean: "killing people"?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

cafard wrote: post #92
gitfan86 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump won in big part because he said he was going to bring Elon in to fix the government. Just because you don't like Trump and Elon doesn't mean that democracy isn't working as intended. Yes the people who were suing SpaceX for not hiring enough immigrants while SpaceX was also required to hire US citizens should be fired. This is what we voted for. If you don't like it you should support a candidate that doesn't f…

Trump won in big part because the Democratic Party a) pretended that all was well with Joe Biden, b) swapped in Kamala Harris when plan a) didn't work. Someday perhaps the Democratic Party will understand that the job of a serious political party is not to inspire (Hillary! Kamala!) but to govern. Forgot to ask--who is this greatest innovator alive?

Good a place as any to remind people that Musk did not found Tesla nor SpaceX.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by MPSimmons »

dtjb wrote: post #55
MPSimmons wrote: post #16

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Yeah, his history is basically bringing in people he can trust because he can control them and then making them do what he wants to get the outcome he needs. It's a pattern across all of his companies and endeavors.

Compared to what, just rolling the dice? SpaceX isn't the only shop that can deliver against requirements. Procurement bids should be transparent and avoid the illusion of conflict. This is the complete opposite of that. It's hard to take Musk's campaign against "fraud and waste" serious when he's awarding the contracts to himself.

100%, this is very definitely him acting immorally and illegally.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by rasz »

Makes sense. In other news some SpaceX garbage fell on a warehouse in Poland yesterday https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62z3vxjplpo

"an uncontrolled re-entry of the Falcon 9 rocket's second stage occurred between 04:46 and 04:48 on February 19, 2025, over Poland".

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by rasz »

looofooo0 wrote: post #84
SirFatty wrote: post #78

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So in other words, you don't really know.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150904-how-spacex-and-b...

SpaceX rocket debris crashes into Poland 2 hours ago https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62z3vxjplpo

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by mrguyorama »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #117
rurp wrote: post #115

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Because getting more money and power are what Elon is after and embedding his companies in the government is an effective way to do that. Tesla stock roughly doubled following the election! That's obviously not because Trump is going to be a champion for electric vehicles and green energy, he couldn't be more hostile to them. Investors know that Elon is going to suck insane amounts of money out of the government with…

Like how, for example? Serious question. If SpaceX has the best, most economical, and safest route to space, why would Nasa and DoD not use them? Who else is there? Blue Origin's not there yet; others are in the works but not there yet. SpaceX is proven; it does a good job and has brought manned space flight back to the U.S. Has nothing to do with whether Musk & his team are close to Trump or not. More to the point,…

>More to the point, the DoGE audits are projected to save the federal government hundreds of billions of dollars, which should significantly reduce the deficit which is currently projected at two trillion dollars.

Oh come the fuck on. Projected by whom? If they are looking to reduce the deficit, why are they floating tax breaks that will cost the country billions?

Have some skepticism, will you?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by simonh »

MPSimmons wrote: post #16
dtjb wrote: post #5

The quote from Duffy indicates that the SpaceX team doesn't have any real knowledge about or experience with the FAA systems. Seems like they're being brought in just because they're a Musk company.

Yeah, his history is basically bringing in people he can trust because he can control them and then making them do what he wants to get the outcome he needs. It's a pattern across all of his companies and endeavors.

As against bringing in people he can’t trust or control, to not do what he wants, and get an outcome he doesn’t need.

I think this move is a mistake, but what your describing there is just competent management.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by rozap »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #30
i80and wrote: post #22

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> Just feels like corruption, tbh. If a democrat did this, it would (rightly!) be seen as a front-page scandal on the scale of Teapot Dome if not worse.

...it's literally seen as a front-page scandal on HN and the linked source though.

This article isn't on the front page, it was flagged.
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