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Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by themadturk »

DecentShoes wrote: post #125
criddell wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like an easy thing to dispute through your credit card company. Also check your card benefits. Mine has theft and damage coverage and I've used it to replace a phone I dropped.

What if they didn't buy it on a credit card? I think I've bought 6 or 7 things on a credit card my entire life. I don't like pointless debt.

If you're using a credit card for its benefits (like buyer protection, which I have several times over the years) and have the money to pay it off immediately, it's not pointless debt, but a net benefit to the purchaser.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by themadturk »

sneak wrote: post #17

Every time I read something like this it strikes me as so incredibly odd that people are into sunlight. For me, direct sunlight is a 100% negative experience. It’s physically dangerous to skin, generally unhealthy if you aren’t Vitamin D deficient, extremely bright, causes wild temperature flux throughout normal working hours, etc. I have spent a lot of time and a fair bit of money making sure natural sunlight never…

I prefer avoiding direct sunlight, but lounging outdoors in the shade is delightful.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by steveBK123 »

pgalvin wrote: post #124
steveBK123 wrote: post #63

I've got one coming my way hopefully in next 2 months.. I kind of see it similarly to this review - a new category of device and not quite a 1-1 replacement of anything I have. I have reluctantly owned Kindles & iPads since v1 of each, and don't particularly like either. For me the iPad is always the 2nd (or 3rd) best device - if I'm seated indoors at a table or sofa, a MacBook is better.. if I'm on the go, a big iPh…

I may have misunderstood your comments on Kindles. How are they the worst tech product you use, if you also think they’re the best at their intended purpose? Do you mean that you still find e-ink technology lacking, but there is nothing better?

The hardware is mediocre, the OS is laggy, can't easily take notes / share interesting quotes, its slow enough trying to buy my next book I just go to sleep if I finish a book & bulk shop for books on phone/desktop in the morning.

I can't remember the last time they added a new feature that was useful. I used to actually read the newspaper on it but they killed it. They used to make a giant one which was kind of a cool idea, but they killed it. Etc..

But yes it's good for reading in bed. That is why I use it regularly and the only thing I use it for.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by plipt »

hedora wrote: post #92
jgrahamc wrote: post #27

I have one of these and I'm just about ready to give it away. The problem is it doesn't fit a use case that I don't have better solutions for. I've found that writing on the screen makes me prefer paper; reading on the screen makes me prefer books. I wanted to like the DC-1 but every time I use it something feels off. Maybe that's partly because I don't enjoy the Android experience.

Yeah; I was really excited about this, but then saw it ran android. Hard pass. I have an android tablet laying around, and never use it. A Linux version / polished installable rom would make it compelling for me, especially if it included stuff from the kindle jailbreak community. Other than that, the ability to ssh, a shell with apt or apk, running vs code, and a web browser would cover a big chunk of my daily drive…

I have yet to use one, but have you heard of the Pinenote?

Its a Debian Linux based e-ink tablet. It doesn’t look particularly premium, but it’s not android. There is a pressure sensitive stylus that comes with it as well.

https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/

Not many reviews out there but here is a video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3trcI7MK4U

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Post by rtpg »

JackMorgan wrote: post #56
jodrellblank wrote: post #50

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I’ve never seen one that’s “good for typing” but: TapStrap 2: https://www.tapwithus.com/product/tap-strap-2/ The ancient Twiddler2 wearable chording keyboard: https://spectrum.ieee.org/media-library/the-twiddler-chorded... The never productised Senseboard: https://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/virtuella-tangenter-gor-nytt... The never productised DataEgg chording: https://www.friedmanarchives.com/dataegg/

I've got an Alphagrip that's pretty good but I ended losing my speed with it when Swype touchscreens came out and I was faster with them. https://www.alphagrip.com/

I've seen the alphagrip, but is it an easy thing to get used to? Like does it kind of map similar fingers to similar buttons?

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by happyopossum »

steveBK123 wrote: post #133
pgalvin wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I may have misunderstood your comments on Kindles. How are they the worst tech product you use, if you also think they’re the best at their intended purpose? Do you mean that you still find e-ink technology lacking, but there is nothing better?

The hardware is mediocre, the OS is laggy, can't easily take notes / share interesting quotes, its slow enough trying to buy my next book I just go to sleep if I finish a book & bulk shop for books on phone/desktop in the morning. I can't remember the last time they added a new feature that was useful. I used to actually read the newspaper on it but they killed it. They used to make a giant one which was kind of a co…

> They used to make a giant one which was kind of a cool idea, but they killed it.

They have a new(er) big one, the scribe

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by reissbaker »

throw10920 wrote: post #105
tiffanyh wrote: post #81

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I've written about this before, but I too gave up on my Daylight - even though I truly love what they are trying to accomplish. I found it: - oddly heavy, the Daylight is made of all plastic (body & screen) - yet it’s heavier than an iPad Air made from metal & glass. - handwriting lag, the input lags when I use the pen is so much that it distracts me while writing a sentence. I have to concentrate to ensure it’s keep…

> handwriting lag, the input lags when I use the pen is so much that it distracts me while writing a sentence Oh, that's a deal-breaker for me. I currently have a Remarkable 2, and the handwriting latency is imperceptible - it feels like I'm writing with a physical pen. However, the latency of doing anything except writing is very high - it takes almost a second to undo/redo or open the pen palette, for instance. The…

FWIW, I have both an RM2 and a DC1 and the handwriting lag feels similar to me on both (and quite perceptible on the RM2). YMMV.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by circuit10 »

headclone wrote: post #66
circuit10 wrote: post #62

Random idea: could someone make a display like this for the Framework laptop?

Fantastic idea — I would be in the market for this, doubly so if it could be easily swapped with an OLED.

I looked it up after and it looks like someone already had a similar idea, I'm pretty sure I've seen this before which is probably where I got the idea from: https://x.com/zephray_wenting/status/1535041457035280392

But that never turned into a product, and this display tech might be more suitable as response times would be better?

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by throw10920 »

reissbaker wrote: post #137
throw10920 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> handwriting lag, the input lags when I use the pen is so much that it distracts me while writing a sentence Oh, that's a deal-breaker for me. I currently have a Remarkable 2, and the handwriting latency is imperceptible - it feels like I'm writing with a physical pen. However, the latency of doing anything except writing is very high - it takes almost a second to undo/redo or open the pen palette, for instance. The…

FWIW, I have both an RM2 and a DC1 and the handwriting lag feels similar to me on both (and quite perceptible on the RM2). YMMV.

Either your RM2 has something wrong with it, or you're (enviously) sensitive to latency. Both the marketing team[1] and independent testing[2] show that latency is under 25 ms.

That also doesn't seem consistent with GP post that "the input lags when I use the pen is so much that it distracts me while writing a sentence" which shouldn't be in the same category as 25ms.

[1] https://support.remarkable.com/s/article/What-s-the-differen...

[2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=g34SVxTjGIA&t=3348s

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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Post by dredmorbius »

Seattle3503 wrote: post #21
ikari_pl wrote: post #13

It reassures me that going with an Onyx Boox Tab Pro was the better choice. Full e-ink, not e-Paper, but still can switch to a mode where you could, if you want, watch a movie. Backlight is not crazy orange, it's what you want (warmth controlled separately from brightness). Ignores hand when you use the stylus, or at least, uses hands gestures for different things than the stylus and I never had the issue. Bluetooth…

I looked at Boox devices, but they lag Android versions to the point where it becomes a security concern.

I treat mine (Max Lumi, about 3 years old now) as an insecure device. There are (very nearly) no account-based services on them (and occasional use of SSH roughly doubles that count), and that which I do use is to a pseudonymous service which ... I've soured on sufficiently that I use it little if any. The device is almost wholly dedicated to consumption, largely e-books, podcasts, and websites. That's a nonzero vulnerability surface, but it's pretty close to nil.

And for those purposes, the device is quite satisfactory.

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