> Upon returning from China, at the end of 2023, my wife and I went to live in Slovakia, where she is from.
She should then know that "Tesla" stands for "technicky slabé" (technically weak).
To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#132We need the EV revolution to save the climate but we were also promised that EVs would have less defects and be more maintainable than traditional ICE cars. But it turns out Teslas and Chinese EVs are among the worst performing in the mandatory periodic inspections in many European countries. This is not because of some anti-US/China bias in European car inspections because Ford (US) and Volvo (China) are doing well.…
>Ford (US) and Volvo (China) Isn't Volvo Swedish?
Volvo is owned by a Chinese company these days called Zhejiang Geely
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like the concept of this, but they just don’t feel to be “nice” places to be in like some of the European marques. The Volvos are about the most comfortable “normal” cars I’ve been in, the Kia’s / Hyundais/ MGs / Toyotas feel like sitting on badly covered sofas on a wishy washy suspension platform, without enough sound deadening.
Those are completely different marks, from completely different countries, and completely different aims and feel. And as someone who drove multiple cars, from multiple East Asian and European marks, I suggest you try drive newer cars, because your opinions don’t match 2024-2025 MY cars from those brands (except for maybe MG, and Toyota, but both aren’t designed or sold for the driving experience. Toyota leaves it fo…
The modern (2023-2025) KIAs (is that what you’re referring to?) have been horrifically crashy in terms of suspension and ride compared to the Germans in my experience. Definitely wouldn’t be for me. We’ve got a 2024 Skoda Octavia VRS and had a 2021 V60, both of which seem to be a much more sensible ride than the (both e and non e)-Niro and the Stonic. The sportage was a whole other level of rolly, and we don’t really get non SUVish-but-not-really models in the UK. Even my 2010 325i was a whole other level of comfort compared to what is being produced by the eastern markets today.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#134I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…
I have the same car and the thing I like most about it is that it doesn't have a giant screen and looks more like a traditional car. I can't say I've had the same issues (or any issues besides the slow infotainment system). I do agree that the amount of notifications are excessive but that seems to be the case with all newer cars.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#135Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.
I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…
It's pretty useful to remind people that buying a tesla is supporting Musk.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#136A 20 year old Clio costs €6,600? Seems somewhat steep - I'd expect nearer to €660!
I'm not sure why he's got problems returning, I'd expect Dutch consumer protection laws to make this an open and shut case.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#137There's two updates to the original post: - All my communications with the Budapest Service Center: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-04/all-my-communic... - How to spit in a customer's face: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-07/how-to-spit-in-...
It's funny to me to buy a domain name just for that.
they bought 2 domains in fact: https://laexperienciatesla.com/
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#138How can we help people not get into those situations? At this point it's trivial to find information like: if you buy Tesla you've got a decent chance of issues; if you use PayPal as a seller there's a decent chance they'll take your money; if you use godaddy there's a chance they'll steal/ransom your domain on expiry; etc. It's all out there, yet people still give them money. How can this be stopped in the first pla…
You take the CEO to a dank isolated cell for a few days and publicly flog them.
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's funny to me to buy a domain name just for that.
It's effective. I consulted once for a food delivery chain that has wronged a customer - a food order that was delivered wrong and they foolishly refused to either right it or refund it. The customer went to the length of buying the domain of the type _company_ is terrible, started to collect reviews from other allegedly wronged customers, and SEO it to the first position in Google search results when you searched fo…
Seems reasonable to me!
Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell
#140if you are trying to but a tesla, then you have only yourself to blame when something goes wrong. tesla is (in)famous for customer service and quality issues.
If you blame people who've been taken advantage of, remember that others will blame you when you've been taken advantage of, too. This is not wise, especially in consumer rights.
Almost every popular company is infamous for bad customer service and quality issues, it's just a matter of luck. You're probably reading this comment on either a smartphone of a brand already known for quality issues and bad customer support, or on a PC built with parts from brands known for quality issues and bad customer support.
And anyways, "you have only yourself to blame" is not true. You have the seller to blame usually. And by law, not just in some vague moral sense.