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Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by kelnos »

tgma wrote: post #106
UncleOxidant wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what's keeping LeCun at Meta at this point. I can imagine he's not happy with Zuck's capitulation. I'm sure you're right that if he decided to leave he'd easily be able to get funding. I'm sure France would be willing to set him up with an AI research lab to get him back there. And there would be plenty of other companies/labs that would be trying to get him.

I've seen him on record that he'd pretty much work for whoever pays him (in the context of research grants for military). Virtue signaling to feel good is only worth so much to people. Humans compartmentalize very well.

It saddens me that taking an ethical stance is now derisively considered "virtue signaling".

I would never work at Meta, not because refusing to do so would make me feel good, but because working there would make me feel like I'm making the world a worse place.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by sparrc »

sampton wrote: post #66
UncleOxidant wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what's keeping LeCun at Meta at this point. I can imagine he's not happy with Zuck's capitulation. I'm sure you're right that if he decided to leave he'd easily be able to get funding. I'm sure France would be willing to set him up with an AI research lab to get him back there. And there would be plenty of other companies/labs that would be trying to get him.

This type of idol worshipping has to stop. LeCun invented CNN but he also said world simulation using diffusion was a deadened, which has been proven very wrong. The money is better spent hiring new grads with open minds and something to prove.

He's a director not a "in the trenches" researcher anymore. He's being paid for being a highly technical leader who enables and recruits researchers he employs to do great work, similar to Oppenheimer in a way.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by mrguyorama »

tdb7893 wrote: post #97
mikepurvis wrote: post #78

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I’d be pretty embarrassed to be working for someone who kissed the ring like Zuck did on Jan 20.

And it was already embarrassing for a myriad of reasons before that including how he went on Joe Rogan talking about how corporations need more "masculine energy". In the hobbies I participate in (notably I'm not in a major tech hub) some of these tech companies are getting a similar social stigma to like finance (and this is especially pronounced among women I know who really don't like what they view as "tech bros"…

>some of these tech companies are getting a similar social stigma to like finance

SV """tech""" companies have had this stigma since at least mid-2010s. Don't you remember the awfulness of Uber's CEO?

A lot of bros in tech delude themselves that they are the "in touch" ones and actually no, it's not chauvinism and misogyny it's just some "masculine energy" but it's always been lies.

It really shouldn't be this surprising that the same people who swear that there's nothing wrong with tech that results in it's INSANE gender ratios despite historical evidence that women love to code continue to ignore obvious signs of their bad behavior.

IDK, maybe it's proximity to hollywood and it's wealth of rich chauvinists and sex predators. Maybe california has something in the water that makes rich men act like sex predators. Or maybe they are a representative sample of male behavior when in positions of power over women in the USA and they just get outed more.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by kelnos »

dannyisaphantom wrote: post #18

Seems like there is a multi-industry push to move into Texas; came across a video the other day of Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson (and other big name actors) reprising their True Detective role calling for the Texas legislature to increase incentives that bring Hollywood productions over to Texas. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/matthew... [2] https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/matthew-m…

Incorporating in Texas has nothing to do with having a big business presence in Texas.

Meta is almost certainly keeping their HQ and most of their operations in CA (and they weren't even incorporated in CA in the first place).

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by kelnos »

darth_avocado wrote: post #64
tokioyoyo wrote: post #51

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Engineers don’t seem to be taking the bait, and people are very reluctant to move away from basically the most perfect weather in the entire world almost year round.

When industries move away, taxes do as well. When the taxes go down, services and property values go down. Engineers may not want to give up perfect weather, but they still want to be employed, have their properties not depreciate and want good schools.

Industries aren't really moving though. The state a company is incorporated is generally orthogonal to where that company puts their HQ or hires most of their workers.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by reaperducer »

hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #30
dannyisaphantom wrote: post #18

Seems like there is a multi-industry push to move into Texas; came across a video the other day of Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson (and other big name actors) reprising their True Detective role calling for the Texas legislature to increase incentives that bring Hollywood productions over to Texas. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/matthew... [2] https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/matthew-m…

Why TF does everyone want to be in Texas heat or not be able to go outside?

Why TF does everyone want to be in Texas heat or not be able to go outside?

Northwest Texas is almost southeast Colorado. Try to think beyond the stereotypes.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by ok_dad »

murderfs wrote: post #124
ok_dad wrote: post #107

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> you still need somebody to drive the AI and validate or correct their outputs 100% visual inspection catches only about 80% of the defects. The following is a classic example from QC circles (I used to run incoming QC at a medical device factory). Count the number of F’s in the paragraph below: > THE NECESSITY OF TRAINING HANDS FOR FIRST-CLASS FARMS IN THE FATHERLY HANDLING OF FRIENDLY FARM LIVESTOCK IS FOREMOST IN…

> The correct answer is four dozen (I wanted to make the number harder to calculate before you count them). No it isn't? I counted 34, and a python oneliner agrees.

Good job, I guess, I was doing that for the comment-bait to get people to count it, not with Python though (is a Python one-liner visual?). In any case, go read stuff from Deming and Juran and others in manufacturing quality, and you will still see that 100% inspection is not enough.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by kelnos »

1659447091 wrote: post #60
hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why TF does everyone want to be in Texas heat or not be able to go outside?

No state income tax. Very business friendly, especially for the Good Ol' Boys club.

> No state income tax.

Property taxes are quite high in TX though. Even a conservative government has to fund itself somehow.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by kelnos »

9283409232 wrote: post #3

A lot of SV companies keep moving or talking about moving to Texas but is Texas really that billionaire friendly? Reuters says it is "perceived by some.." but is it?

Meta isn't moving to Texas. They're just planning on reincorporating there (moving from Delaware).

I really don't see or hear much of any SV companies actually talking about moving their HQ or (critically) workforce to Texas. Certainly it has happened, but this narrative that everyone is leaving California is alarmist nonsense.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Post by mrguyorama »

jmyeet wrote: post #84
m_ke wrote: post #13

I can't imagine what it's like at Meta right now, with the CEO publicly stating that they're firing the bottom 5% of performers and then a week later stating that the LLMs that his researchers / engineers are working on will soon be able to replace them. Zuck needs Yann LeCun and other senior researchers at Meta a lot more than they need him. If they were to quit there would be a line out the door to hand them as muc…

All talk of being about social change or diversity by large companies should now be exposed as purely performative. If you want to work at not just Meta but Google or Microsoft or Amazon because money is good, that's fine. We live in a society where you need money. But you're fooling yourself if you think you're doing something good for society should've shattered long ago. All these big tech companies have done an i…

>All talk of being about social change or diversity by large companies should now be exposed as purely performative

It was always understood as purely performative. You think Gay people actually thought Target cared about them? Do you think Trans people actually thought Budweiser was going to go out of their way to support the trans community just because they gave a trans person like $50k?

The only people who have ever insisted that corporate "we love the gays" was serious are the people who are yelling about how "woke" companies are. Except at the same time they will also yell about how it's just performative?

I can't help but feel what they were asking for was never genuine support of LGBTQ people either, since, uh, who they tend to vote for. Rather, their complaint seems to have come simply from any media, any images, any acknowledgement whatsoever that LGBTQ people are PEOPLE

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