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Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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This shows another of the many ways in which a having a trusted third party involved in your finances is actually a good thing.

Arguably the feature that makes kidnappings for ransom unattractive isn't necessarily traditional banks being trusted, but rather that traditional bank transfers are usually reversible (e.g. due to a court order).

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Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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This shows another of the many ways in which a having a trusted third party involved in your finances is actually a good thing.

I guess is comes down to whether you think it's possible to prevent this kind of thing with nothing more than cleverly aligned incentives and cleverly applied cryptography. If it is, then we'd be fools not to try, and having the trusted third party is just the better of several bad alternatives. But it is a pretty audacious claim. I wish there were more radical optimists among us pursuing such things. Pity that that'…

You definitely have to be a radical optimist to put faith in crypto at this point. Maybe Trump is an optimist too though

Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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Crypto will not be ready for mainstream until effective game-theoretic countermeasures for this kind of thing are built into the protocols.

At some point "the rubber meets the road", i.e., you have to bridge the digital world and the physical one. Increase the probability that thugs are caught and increase the severity of the consequences. In the real world the ultimate countermeasure is bullets. All the rest is to avoid reaching this last resort.

Online the ultimate countermeasure is being a dog. If your currency brings you to the conclusion that you must be protected at all times with deadly force so you don’t get ransomed, I don’t know what to tell you.

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I don't live at the house where I ordered my wallet anymore. So that's a relief.

We literally had to move, out of fear, and I am going to ridiculous measures right now because I work in the field. Luckily, we were renting.

Is it worth the impact to your lifestyle to work in crypto?

Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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This shows another of the many ways in which a having a trusted third party involved in your finances is actually a good thing.

Or you could see it as an argument for the second amendment. Would someone have attempted this against an executive based in Texas? I don’t think so.

It has already happened in Texas:

https://archive.is/34qpX

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Arguably the feature that makes kidnappings for ransom unattractive isn't necessarily traditional banks being trusted, but rather that traditional bank transfers are usually reversible (e.g. due to a court order).

But not if the transactions are going to the caynman islands and then from there somewhere else etc. I believe. If you have a bank account in the same country, you also have an owner.

Still, it seems, the "barriers to entry" are much lower with crypto. (No need to send someone there to open a bank account, etc.)

Though doing a kidnapping in the middle of France is pretty ballsy anyway.

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We literally had to move, out of fear, and I am going to ridiculous measures right now because I work in the field. Luckily, we were renting.

Is it worth the impact to your lifestyle to work in crypto?

Sounds like it if they have enough assets to worry about organized kidnapping, and the inconvenience is moving apartments.

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How does the government of France decide whether your kidnapping is worth sending military tactical teams to rescue you?

This is not the US. They don't check how much bribes you paid your local police forces. They are just doing their jobs

Where did you get the idea that the US is like that?

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To be fair it could happen to any rich person, it’s just crypto makes the transfer quick/easy and hard to trace if you know how to do it

You more or less just made the case for targeting crypto-rich people.

I'm fairly sure the criminals are aware already.
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