Do we know why the US government did not promise to buy chips but to give tax breaks (or investment thereof)? Wouldn't promise to buy create a better incentive to the manufacturers?
Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
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Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read the main problem with hiring chip factory workers in Arizona was the factory just didnt pay enough for the long hours demanded. I looked up the median salary and its only 50k so I'm assuming it's not crazy skilled labor (e.g. brain drain). Taiwanese workers just seem more willing to do it.
I spoke to a Taiwanese person and apparently the salaries there are actually quite good, even by western standards (normal ones; not SF). The downside is they have very very long hours (996, barely any holiday, etc.).
996..? doesn't fit into weeks, months or years
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read the main problem with hiring chip factory workers in Arizona was the factory just didnt pay enough for the long hours demanded. I looked up the median salary and its only 50k so I'm assuming it's not crazy skilled labor (e.g. brain drain). Taiwanese workers just seem more willing to do it.
I spoke to a Taiwanese person and apparently the salaries there are actually quite good, even by western standards (normal ones; not SF). The downside is they have very very long hours (996, barely any holiday, etc.).
It's also highly-skilled, yet very boring work. The way it was described to me is that every major piece of equipment has a PhD assigned to it and their job is basically to babysit the machine and troubleshoot when things go wrong.
US PhDs typically have other options and would consider this sort of work a waste of their time.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
the internet ad industry is raking billions from all over the world into the USA, how can you call that unproductive.
Because is fucking undproductive, useless and detrimental to society. Advertising is a cancer, an immoral activity.
I disagree
There is good and bad advertising.
I'd want to receive ads for things that I'm really interested in.
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
I spoke to a Taiwanese person and apparently the salaries there are actually quite good, even by western standards (normal ones; not SF). The downside is they have very very long hours (996, barely any holiday, etc.).
996..? doesn't fit into weeks, months or years
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I spoke to a Taiwanese person and apparently the salaries there are actually quite good, even by western standards (normal ones; not SF). The downside is they have very very long hours (996, barely any holiday, etc.).
996..? doesn't fit into weeks, months or years
9am to 9pm 6 days a week
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#137- Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips. - The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan to be packaged as there are no facilities here with such a capability. Made in america is a hard sell. But at least showing the glaring STEM field gap in the U.S. is a start to finally addressing the brain drain.
You have to walk before you can run.
You have to crawl before you can walk. Apparently this is where we are at.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also a lot of US STEM grads have their skills wasted in unproductive fields, like the ad business.
the internet ad industry is raking billions from all over the world into the USA, how can you call that unproductive.
It's parasitic, not productive.
A tick can contain a lot of blood, doesn't mean it produced that blood.
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
I spoke to a Taiwanese person and apparently the salaries there are actually quite good, even by western standards (normal ones; not SF). The downside is they have very very long hours (996, barely any holiday, etc.).
996..? doesn't fit into weeks, months or years
9am-9pm 6 days a week.
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US is not going to hold on to some working fab for some Taiwan-government-in-exile. As soon as you are out of power, even your allies generally take the time to plunder what they can.
Just like the US plundered any Ukrainian assets they could get their hands on, instead of supporting the Ukrainian government and freezing Russian assets instead?
The Ukrainian government is very much still extant