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Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by doublepg23 »

10729287 wrote: post #46
doublepg23 wrote: post #3

Highly recommend the Samsung S5e Tablet with LineageOS. It’s an amazing tablet for comics and light reading. Hard to beat its high res AMOLED display, incredibly light weight, and decent enough specs (I haven’t personally seen slowdowns when using Lineage on a minimal install). Forgoing gapps gets you crazy standby time. Couple things to note is it doesn’t have a headphone jack (it is legitimately that thin though) a…

Thank you for the tip ! Was looking for a portable device at home for random browsing, it will be a nice beginning of the year project ! Do you recommend installing v21 or a previous version on this device ?

I run a minimal install of 21 right now (no gapps) and it’s great. Even handles browsing fine with Brave (built in ad blocking).

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by doublepg23 »

TwoNineFive wrote: post #39
doublepg23 wrote: post #3

Highly recommend the Samsung S5e Tablet with LineageOS. It’s an amazing tablet for comics and light reading. Hard to beat its high res AMOLED display, incredibly light weight, and decent enough specs (I haven’t personally seen slowdowns when using Lineage on a minimal install). Forgoing gapps gets you crazy standby time. Couple things to note is it doesn’t have a headphone jack (it is legitimately that thin though) a…

The S5e is super old and many devices are likely facing battery age issues. I wish I had known this device was going to see long-term support like it received. I would have bought one at the time. The only modern tablet officially supported is the Pixel Tablet (tangopro). It's good enough but the screen quality isn't as nice as I would like. It should be supported for many years to come due to it's SoC being common t…

As slow as it is on paper (in practice it’s really not bad) and the batteries are indeed going, its AMOLED screen really takes the cake.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by igneo676 »

Asooka wrote: post #125
pimterry wrote: post #99

Love to see the ongoing progress here, but I'm really starting to worry that the growth of attestation on Android will make using custom ROMs like LineageOS impossible in future. Is there any way we can fight this? Feels like there must be some EU/US consumer rights or digital market legislation somewhere that could be used to more directly object to organizations like banks saying "your phone works just fine but we…

What is stopping LineageOS from supporting (or faking support for) attestation?

Mainly historical reasons:

Back in 2009 during the Cyanogenmod days, Google issued a C&D to the developers to keep them from distributing Google Apps alongside the main ROM. IMO it was less about the app distribution and more to force Cyanogemod to come to the table and work with Google to develop ground rules on how 3rd party ROMs would interact with Google more broadly. Cyanogemod (now LineageOS) basically agreed not to step on Google's toes. At the time it was not to distribute Google's Apps inside of the ROM. Now it's to not bypass OS level protections like Play Integrity (formerly Safety Net)

Their stance now can be found here: https://lineageos.org/PlayIntegrity/ . Note the part that says:

> Any action taken to bypass Play Integrity risks a backlash against all custom OSes, and could cause Google to block them entirely from the Play Store.

So long as the main players follow this advice, Google tends to also ignore smaller players that _are_ working around this via Magisk or other means. It's also possible that this simply becomes non-viable after some time.

It's also worth noting, Google has ways to allow third parties to certify their devices on https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/ . This doesn't grant fully Safety Net, but it's definitely another way Google is working with custom ROMs to ensure you have access to the Play Store

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by asveikau »

prosody wrote: post #42
timschmidt wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Isn’t that significantly on the Linux kernel not having stable driver ABIs?

I think the interfaces we are talking about are not part of upstream Linux. They will bolt on half baked stuff regardless of the interfaces Linux provides.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by [deleted] »

colordrops wrote: post #64
kube-system wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the fact that all phones have closed-source baseband firmware and are hooked up to vulnerable networks running ss7, they've got worse things to worry about if they're using a phone anyway.

It's not all or nothing. That's like saying you might as well smoke 20 cigarettes since you are already smoking 10.

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Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by steelframe »

Gualdrapo wrote: post #2

Have I ever got a bigger paycheck I'd donate to them without hesitation. It's because of them (and formerly Cyanogenmod) I got to have my Xperia Z1 for 7+ years, and now this Xperia 1ii for 4 years, each of them were/are doing great because of it. Hope they keep going strong.

I'm still of the opinion that an Xperia Z1 Compact running LineageOS handily outcompetes any cycling computer that Germin or Wahoo has shipped in the past 10 years.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by acaloiar »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #114
lordofgibbons wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, running GrapheneOS, this has been a big headache for me. And it's incredibly stupid too. The app won't work natively due to a lack of attestation, so I have to fire up the browser and user the service.... Exactly how is that more anti-abuse than just using an app without attestation? It's security theater and has no basis in reality.

Can you scan a check from your web browser? Maybe I'm wrong, but probably not; frankly, it's a logistical miracle we can do this from our phones and the banks tolerate it, but I can see why they would still want to minimize all risk involved. The second reason though I can think a bank would want attestation is as an anti-piracy measure. With a website, you have HTTPS verifying the identity of the domain. With an app…

> Can you scan a check from your web browser?

Yes

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevice...

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by ensignavenger »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #114
lordofgibbons wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, running GrapheneOS, this has been a big headache for me. And it's incredibly stupid too. The app won't work natively due to a lack of attestation, so I have to fire up the browser and user the service.... Exactly how is that more anti-abuse than just using an app without attestation? It's security theater and has no basis in reality.

Can you scan a check from your web browser? Maybe I'm wrong, but probably not; frankly, it's a logistical miracle we can do this from our phones and the banks tolerate it, but I can see why they would still want to minimize all risk involved. The second reason though I can think a bank would want attestation is as an anti-piracy measure. With a website, you have HTTPS verifying the identity of the domain. With an app…

Why would some one pirate a free banking app that they get for free from their bank anyway?

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by steelframe »

I run LineageOS on an Xperia Z1 Compact that I use as a cycling computer and GrapheneOS as my daily driver. If any business excludes my phone, I exclude that business.

The only trouble I run into is when (pseudo-)public institutions such as airlines or municipal parking authorities arbitrarily require apps that only Apple or Google distribute through their DRM-infested frameworks.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by wkat4242 »

goodburb wrote: post #29
doublepg23 wrote: post #3

Highly recommend the Samsung S5e Tablet with LineageOS. It’s an amazing tablet for comics and light reading. Hard to beat its high res AMOLED display, incredibly light weight, and decent enough specs (I haven’t personally seen slowdowns when using Lineage on a minimal install). Forgoing gapps gets you crazy standby time. Couple things to note is it doesn’t have a headphone jack (it is legitimately that thin though) a…

Still using a very old Tab S 10.5 from 2014 running a bit slow with LOS 21 - Android 14. Started with Android 4 KitKat, stuck with Linux kernel 3.4 :) 5.4mm thickness, 3GB RAM (enough for 32-bit), 2TB SD card works, watching movies/shows with the AMOLED look as good as a recent OLED TV. Truly ahead of their time. SDR content with mDNIe dynamic enabled comes surprisingly close to HDR content on an HDR display, colors…

Oh I have the same one. I had no idea it was supported by LOS now. When I last looked out wasn't. Thanks, I'll have a look for it.
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