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An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by rufugee »

vibrunazo wrote: post #60
georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

> iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) I keep hearing that. But never seen it backed up. Based on exactly what does people say this? There's no efficient way to "count" Android tablet optimized apps. So how do you compare? Is it because there are some major apps that still works bad on Android tablets? If so, which ones? I remember when Honeycomb ju…

I strongly prefer Android to iOS, and I have both android (Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.0 and Asus Transformer) and Apple (iPad 1 and 2) tablets. One app I use quite a bit on the iPad is DirecTV. It makes TV watching a better experience by providing a nice interface to control your TV, search through the guide and movies, your recordings, and on-demand content and you can even stream shows to it. Contrast this with the Android version, which is a dumb guide with very limited features. It's really a night and day difference.

I think Android will catch up, but it's not hard to find examples like this.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

RobAtticus wrote: post #116
konstruktor wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jelly Bean is a development preview at the moment. I suppose that, like iOS 6, you have to enroll into the developer program to get it.

No it isn't? OTAs for Jelly Bean have been going on for a few days now. http://thedroidguy.com/2012/07/google-releases-jelly-bean-ot...

That OTA is for the GSM model of the Galaxy Nexus, which is for T-Mobile, AT&T, (and most of the non-US countries) and gets its updates directly from Google. The post above is talking about the Verizon model, which does not get updates directly from Google (because you didn't buy it directly from Google), and is instead forced to wait for updates from Verizon. The only other option is to unlock the bootloader and install a community ROM.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by jff »

Peaker wrote: post #61
w1ntermute wrote: post #9

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I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I bought a Galaxy Nexus phone for my girlfriend so we wouldn't have to worry about updates anymore. It's still stuck on 4.0.1 with no update in sight...

The Galaxy Nexuses (Nexii?) we have at work updated to Jelly Bean on Friday. Check hers again.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by Kadrith »

rufugee wrote: post #131
vibrunazo wrote: post #60

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> iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) I keep hearing that. But never seen it backed up. Based on exactly what does people say this? There's no efficient way to "count" Android tablet optimized apps. So how do you compare? Is it because there are some major apps that still works bad on Android tablets? If so, which ones? I remember when Honeycomb ju…

I strongly prefer Android to iOS, and I have both android (Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.0 and Asus Transformer) and Apple (iPad 1 and 2) tablets. One app I use quite a bit on the iPad is DirecTV. It makes TV watching a better experience by providing a nice interface to control your TV, search through the guide and movies, your recordings, and on-demand content and you can even stream shows to it. Contrast this with the Andr…

Isn't this a difference in what DirecTV has implemented in their applications? I read the OP as asking for applications that do not function on an Android tablet or function significantly different on an Android tablet vs. an Android phone.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by jff »

taligent wrote: post #87
mtgx wrote: post #37

Why would you want to hold your tablet with two hands, other than perhaps gaming? But I figure it should be easier to play them if it's smaller. You're using the iPad with 2 hands, because you don't usually have a choice. I do think Google needs to make the next version 7.7"-8", though. I think 7" is a little too small. Basically they should make one that is as large as possible (but up to 8"), which you can still ho…

The same reason everyone doesn't read books with one hand. It's more comfortable to hold it with two.

Don't be silly. I read books with one hand all the time--small books, paperbacks, thin hard-bound books. Enormous 700-page O'Reilly books? No.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by jarek »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #55
pooriaazimi wrote: post #39

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No. You usually hold a 7" tablet closer to your eyes than a 10" one. So, for its pixels to appear the same to your poor eyes as pixels on an 246 ppi iPad 3, it must have a pixel density of 290 or so.

I think what I said is true. I can't understand why it's been downvoted...

FYI: I downvoted you because telcodud was explicitly not making a claim that Nexus 7 is "retina," and in your retina-calculation math you completely overlooked the actual (and correct) answer to mycodebreaks' question:

> Nexus 7 [is] not "retina"

> Nexus 7 is closer to iPad 3 than iPad 2.

What you did end up saying is correct but unrelated to the post you were disagreeing with.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by betterth »

bengillies wrote: post #102
adrianm wrote: post #98

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I actually don't think he's trolling, or at least not in the way you're interpreting. I could be wrong, but I think he just clumsily phrased his response. In other words, he was stating that the point of Android is to be a decentralized operating system. Individual deployments are not controlled by any one corporation, so there can be a lot of hit and misses. Therefore, I don't think he is making a general claim that…

You're probably correct but then, why judge the Android OS as a whole based on the fact that there are a few rubbish devices out that run it?

"You're probably correct but then, why judge the Android OS as a whole based on the fact that there are a few rubbish devices out that run it?"

Because this is how Brands work. You don't get to say Android-Google and Android-Samsung unless you're talking to an analyst or a geek. For most Android owners, they have an "Android" phone. What brand? Uhh I dunno Google? Android?

Android as a brand is the collection of not just the superstar devices, but the shitty POS devices as a whole.

So as a brand, iOS > Android because the average of Android is weighed down by the crappy side of Cheap Android.

That doesn't mean that any one device is superior to any other one device, but rather that as a collective brand, the iOS brand is superior to Androids, and if you blindly buy an iOS device you're more likely to get quality than if you blindly buy an Android device.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by [deleted] »

bengillies wrote: post #94
betterth wrote: post #91

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Android is inferior to iOS. Google Android could be on par with iOS, that's exciting and I can't wait to try the Nexus 7. But it takes only one glance at what is released under the "Android" name for me to definitively state: Android is inferior to iOS. But that's the point of Android. There is very, very little centralized quality control so the spectrum of quality goes all the way from the Nexus 7 down to a $99 POS…

I know I'm not supposed to feed trolls, but: > Android is inferior to iOS. > > But that's the point of Android. The point of Android is to be not as good as iOS? Really? That's the point of Android? Do you make the claim that all cars are rubbish just because some companies make rubbish cars? No. Different cars are different. Obviously. So it is with Android devices. If one Android device is on a par with the new iPa…

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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by gurkendoktor »

ajross wrote: post #129
_ea1k wrote: post #110

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> What do I do in the Play store if I know all the front page apps already (not hard)? Click on the categories link on the left side, and then browse.

Or select on any app you like and use and scroll down to "Users also Installed" and "Users also Viewed". This is a great way to find cool stuff. It's also unclear if the grandparent is talking about the literal front page of "featured" apps, or the infinite scrolling list of "top" apps by all the categories (currently: Paid, Free, Grossing, New Paid, New Free, and Trending). I mean, I'm sure one can ding the Play Sto…

Good point about "People also liked".

I meant the literal front page of both stores: Clicking the "App Store" tab in iTunes (same as opening "App Store" on the iPad), vs. going to the page I've linked.

Both stores have categories, but I don't enjoy browsing through them. By topic, I meant the hand-picked thematic groups of apps on the App Store front page, like "Racing Games", "Cookbooks", "Fun for Two Players", "Apps for Travelling" etc. - I really enjoy those. Everything that is hand-picked feels a hundred times more interesting than an automated list to me.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by r00fus »

nl wrote: post #26
r00fus wrote: post #15

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This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it. If we see other tablets of similar calibre to the nexus7, then yes - you can say "Android" compares/best iOS. But for right now, it's nexus7 vs. iPad or Kindle Fire.

This is a google device, not a run-of-the-mill Android device (most of which are not on ICS much less JB). I think almost all brand name tablets are on ICS now. This point is very important - it makes the device more like an iOS one - more likely for updates, more fine touches as Google's cred rests on it Have you actually used something like the Asus Transformer? It's very, very good. I have a MBP, Linux Laptop, Win…

> It's very, very good. I have a MBP, Linux Laptop, Windows Laptop, iPad2, iPhone 4, Galaxy S, an old 7" no brand Android tablet and the Transformer with a keyboard dock, and the Transformer gets the most use for general email/web browsing use.

I'd bet the Transformer is intended to disrupt the MBAir/ultrabook and will likely compete directly with the forthcoming MS Surface tabs. I like what I hear about it though I haven't used one (friends who have them are favorable).

Do you detach much or simply use the keyboard dock? How is the trackpad? Do you use it with mouse?

The idea of the Chrome/Android ARM laptop is very exciting - I was seriously hoping Apple would have already released an ARM-based MB Air-alike - it would redefine the product in a great way, IMHO.

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