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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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I would also most certainly have a dead man's switch releasing everything I know. I would have given it to an attorney along with a sworn deposition.

What if you'd die from a genuine accident?

You still release it?

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Anyone who's a whistleblower should compile key docs and put it in a "dead man's switch" service that releases your testimony/docs to multiple news agencies in the event of your untimely demise. The company you're whistle blowing against and their major shareholders should know this exists. Also, regularly post public video attesting to you current mental state.

Intelligence agencies certainly run such things.

It would likely be safer to write a service and have interdependent relationships between redundant hosting systems in different jurisdictions without direct connections because that way you can protect against single points of failure (eg. compromised hosts, payment systems, regulators, network providers).

I would be surprised if this isn't a thing yet on Ethereum or some other well known distributed processing crypto platform.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Normally the word "whistleblower" means someone who revealed previously-unknown facts about an organization. In this case he's a former employee who had an interview where he criticized OpenAI, but the facts that he was in possession of were not only widely known at the time but were the subject of an ongoing lawsuit that had launched months prior. As much as I want to give this a charitable reading, the only explana…

No. Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. It is so low such that it is extremely reasonable to consider the potential for an actual assassination while not precluding that a coincidence is a possibility.

Computer the probability, don’t make claims without making a solid estimate.

No, it’s not low. No need to put conspiracies before evidence, and certainly not by making claims you’ve not done no diligence on.

And the article provides statements by professionals who routinely investigate homicides and suicides that they have no reason to believe anything other than suicide.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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> European press agencies It's very naive to believe in 'European press'. To get the idea check Ukrainian war coverage. What you'll see first is how single sided it is. This cannot be a coincidence. It can be only a result of total control. I respected 'The Guardians' before, but after eyes opening it appears to be the most brainwashing and manipulative there. Very professionally done, must admit. The problem isn't j…

> It's very naive to believe in 'European press'. To get the idea check Ukrainian war coverage. What you'll see first is how single sided it is. This is such a wild take from my POV, a person in the EU. Have you considered the possibility that the nearest imperialist power beginning to violently invade Europe again is likely to trigger a common reaction? This is one of those rare cases in modern history where there i…

I can explain a bit. Russians living in Empire of Evil can see all internet including US and EU news. At the same time 'Putin propaganda' channels are blocked in EU. In EU only one side is available. This creates an information bubble, as intended. Which is a basic crowd control technique used to drive public opinion. In this case to support the war. The result is obvious, EU polls show much stronger support than the rest of the world. Even though media claims most of the world is against Putin, if you look at the map it's only minority, NATO and a few allies. In some EU countries it's even a crime look through the bubble's wall. Most don't realize it even exists. They accept the arguments from their politicians. Like it's a business opportunity, or it's a cheap way to harm Putin. The price for that is hundreds of thousands of human lives on both sides. Which is generally considered as ok, as those are Russians and Ukrainians, not us. Actually media doesn't talk much about it.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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I wonder who called to ask about his well-being. The Boeing guy killed himself, this guy apparently killed himself. The pattern of David vs Goliath, where David kills himself, is almost becoming a pattern.

Yeah, the pattern is real. The patterns of high male suicide rates and Goliaths having a lot of employees combine into a pattern of the innumerate invoking boogeymen wherever it suits their world view, evidence and reason be dammed.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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There are some pretty callous comments on this thread. This is really sad. Suchir was just 26, and graduated from Berkeley 3 years ago. Here’s his personal site: https://suchir.net/ . I think he was pretty brave for standing up against what is generally perceived as an injustice being done by one of the biggest companies in the world, just a few years out of college. I’m not sure how many people in his position would…

>if in his position, you would that want that to be written about you or a friend.

If that was my public persona, I don't see why not. He could have kept quiet and chosen not to testify if he was afraid of this defining him in a way.

I will say it's a real shame that it did become his public legacy, because I'm sure he was a brilliant man who would have truly help change the world for the better with a few more decades on his belt.

All that said, assassination theories are just that (though "theory" is much too strong a word here in a formal sense. it's basically hearsay). There's no real link to tug on here so there's not much productivity taking that route.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's very naive to believe in 'European press'. To get the idea check Ukrainian war coverage. What you'll see first is how single sided it is. This is such a wild take from my POV, a person in the EU. Have you considered the possibility that the nearest imperialist power beginning to violently invade Europe again is likely to trigger a common reaction? This is one of those rare cases in modern history where there i…

I can explain a bit. Russians living in Empire of Evil can see all internet including US and EU news. At the same time 'Putin propaganda' channels are blocked in EU. In EU only one side is available. This creates an information bubble, as intended. Which is a basic crowd control technique used to drive public opinion. In this case to support the war. The result is obvious, EU polls show much stronger support than the…

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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post #22

I wonder who called to ask about his well-being. The Boeing guy killed himself, this guy apparently killed himself. The pattern of David vs Goliath, where David kills himself, is almost becoming a pattern.

Boeing guy and OpenAI whistleblower were both seen as "not depressed" and have even gone far as to say that if anything happened to him that it wouldn't have been an accident. I'm not sure why there are so many comments trying to downplay and argue around whether OpenAI was a whistleblower or not he fits pretty much all the definition. OpenAI was suspected of using copyright data but that wasn't the only thing OpenAI…

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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> Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. You're running into the birthday paradox here. The probability of a specific witness dying before they can testify in a lawsuit is low. The probability of any one of dozens of people involved in a lawsuit dying before it's resolved is…

Right, so given the paradox, consider both possibilities rather then dismiss one like the parent is implying here.

I've considered the probabilities of both and find one to be far more likely.
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