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Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by s1artibartfast »

normalaccess wrote: post #105
alpinisme wrote: post #94

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There are literally laws against prostitution and yet that doesn’t stop it or the STIs it can help transmit.

Who is talking about prostitution? All I'm saying is that not sleeping around is 100% effective at preventing STIs. And it is... There is no arguing that logic. It's not my problem that our culture can't keep it in their pants.

Sometimes the medicine is worse than the disease.

Who says it is your problem? If you choose to be celibate, no one is stopping you.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by IshKebab »

m3kw9 wrote: post #104
bobthepanda wrote: post #9

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There is a generic daily pill (Truvada), a more expensive one (Descovy) and an every two months shot (Apretude.) Apretude has lower efficacy than Descovy or Truvada, but once you factor in human error in taking a daily pill regimen, it is more even. Human error is a significant factor since the current treatment protocols say if you’re not sure whether or not to take it, it is safer to skip than to accidentally doubl…

Seen these on commercial, I wish they stop with commercial for meds. Depressing asf, keep reminding me of my mortality while I’m trying to relax and enjoy a moment

Definitely one of the weird things I noticed in America. Most countries do not have medical adverts, for obvious reasons.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by IshKebab »

dhaugshs wrote: post #67
perching_aix wrote: post #64

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could you undo the abbreviations please?

Penis in vagina. It's a specification. It's like "birthing parent", to be clear what hardware is being used. Given that HIV infection rates are very variable (over an order of magnitude, sometimes two) by subpopulation, clarifications detailing what hardware is doing what are very necessary.

We already have words for that: anal/vaginal sex.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by a_t48 »

IshKebab wrote: post #133
dhaugshs wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Penis in vagina. It's a specification. It's like "birthing parent", to be clear what hardware is being used. Given that HIV infection rates are very variable (over an order of magnitude, sometimes two) by subpopulation, clarifications detailing what hardware is doing what are very necessary.

We already have words for that: anal/vaginal sex.

Yeah you’re right, I’m not sure why I wrote it that way.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by cosmotic »

cosmotic wrote: post #128
bobthepanda wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a generic daily pill (Truvada), a more expensive one (Descovy) and an every two months shot (Apretude.) Apretude has lower efficacy than Descovy or Truvada, but once you factor in human error in taking a daily pill regimen, it is more even. Human error is a significant factor since the current treatment protocols say if you’re not sure whether or not to take it, it is safer to skip than to accidentally doubl…

The data I've seen shows apretude is more effective, not less

First party, but I assume there's a lot more rigor and regulation on this than normal first party claims: https://apretude.com/about-apretude/clinical-trials

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by b112 »

n4r9 wrote: post #69
b112 wrote: post #56

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I don't have much issue with buying vitamins, because I take them with me. Just as I take toothpaste, etc. If I am there long enough to need more vitamins, it is in the same category as needing more toothpaste, and you resupply as you would at home. No kids. I do have emergency paging and downed server / PROD to deal with 24/7, not the same as kids, but wake-disrupting all the same. There is rarely something urgent e…

> I don't have much issue with buying vitamins, because I take them with me. Nevertheless you do have to remember to pack them, and you need to regularly replenish your stocks. I'm guessing that this replenishing happens at least as often as every 6 months, which is how often you need to arrange the injection in question. By the sounds of it you do a lot of travelling, so you may need to anticipate cases where you ar…

This is such a weird conversation to me. As I said before, I'm not surprised I don't, and you don't grok.

What order? Order? I go to the grocery store from time to time. I also go to the pharmacy. When I do, I buy things I require. It's literally that simple. I do the same with any other type of food, or supply I need.

Why aren't you asking me if I have trouble buying butter, toothpaste, salt, pepper? I see I'm getting low, and I buy. Done. Super simple.

Literally, the entire planet seems to do it mostly this way.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by b112 »

viraptor wrote: post #59
thaumasiotes wrote: post #55

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> Do you have kids, if so how do you deal with frequent disruptions to the morning routine? Do you not have days where you just need to get up and go e.g. to catch a flight, get to a meeting, take a kid to school, or because you stayed up late and got drunk, etc... and taking vitamins took a back seat? This is crazy. You deal with the morning routine by taking your pills when the alarm goes off, because there's nothi…

> because there's nothing the kids can be doing that won't wait for that. I feel you don't have young kids then. Jumping on you, bleeding, having a nightmare, making possibly-chocking-sounds, running away with your pills, vomiting on the floor, etc. will definitely take priority over whatever you thought you were going to do after waking up. And that doesn't even touch on people with executive functions issues. Or th…

Do you miss urinating? Drinking water instead of dying?

It's literally all the same thing. I wake up. I do wake up stuff. If there's some disturbance, some emergency, I still have to go to the bathroom, drink, and yes take vitamins eventually.

It's insanely simple beyond all belief. You just need to form a habit, that's all. "Take vitamins when first drinking water in the morning", or coffee, or whatever. Done. Done forever.

I get that my above statements baffle some people. As I said before, I don't get why.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by normalaccess »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #109
normalaccess wrote: post #103

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I didn't say Abstinence-Only Education... I said not sleeping around is 100% effective. And it is.

> not sleeping around is 100% effective Nope [1]. [1] https://clinicalinfo.hiv.gov/en/guidelines/perinatal/managem...

If the mom didn't sleep around that would fix two problems then...

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by normalaccess »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #111
normalaccess wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is talking about prostitution? All I'm saying is that not sleeping around is 100% effective at preventing STIs. And it is... There is no arguing that logic. It's not my problem that our culture can't keep it in their pants.

> not my problem that our culture can't keep it in their pants The clarion call of every mullah and religious nutjob has been that their culture is pious and chaste. Funnily enough, HIV doesn't seem to notice. More broadly, it is your problem. Because the more opportunity the virus has to replicate, the more opportunity it has to evolve, and there's nothing fundamentally limiting HIV to being a sexually-transmitted d…

Then stop it in its tracts by removing it's ONLY current transmission method. Say what you want about morality, I'm not talking about that. Just the cold hard facts that if you don't have sex you can't get STIs by definition.

imagine a world where there was no casual sex... ALL STIs would disappear in a single generation.

Re: Twice-Yearly HIV Shot Shows 100% Effectiveness in Women

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Post by normalaccess »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #131
normalaccess wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is talking about prostitution? All I'm saying is that not sleeping around is 100% effective at preventing STIs. And it is... There is no arguing that logic. It's not my problem that our culture can't keep it in their pants.

Sometimes the medicine is worse than the disease. Who says it is your problem? If you choose to be celibate, no one is stopping you.

Yes, and a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

No one is stopping you from being celibate or monogamous if you so choose. But that changes noting about the logic of the situation.

It is impossible to avoid cause and effect:

Celibacy = 100% success against STIs Non-monogamy = 79.85% Chance of catching an STI (Using numbers from the NYC STD CENTER)

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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