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A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Car (for personal transport) is also a bad idea, yet there is plenty of them.

Yes, it's taking ages in order to get ride of thoses in of Paris. You need to not hurt thoses who are brainwashed by cars and keep taking it despite having one of the best public transit in the world.

How do people get around Paris when transit employees don't feel like working that day?

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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I'm forced to disagree. Catastrophic failure would be a feature not a bug. "Natural selection against stupidity."

"Worse" was not for people in the vehicle but the people below. After car forced us to be aware of our surrounding when walking, flying car would force us to be aware of the sky too.

Humans have always needed to be aware of their surroundings. Plenty of pedestrians were hit by horse-drawn vehicles before cars were even invented.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Well, even if the city doesn't re-use the water, it doesn't just disappear.

Yeah, but getting rid of chemicals and returning it to a non-poisonous state for the nature is a big plus. You can't dump everything to the soil and say "that's your problem now, nature. Cope!".

> You can't dump everything to the soil and say "that's your problem now, nature. Cope!".

Nature couldn't care less. Nature works on much larger timescales than humans. It's the humans that are impacted.

Just like climate change, plastic, and all other environmental issues -- humans are paying (or will pay) the price, not nature.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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It fills with (hot) water up to the neck, which feels like a huge risk for unattended disabled people

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You’re right, and I’m sorry for not being more specific. I was thinking of people who have trouble washing themselves, since that’s what GP was talking about.

I’ll be more mindful of the diversity of disabilities in the future.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Yes, it's taking ages in order to get ride of thoses in of Paris. You need to not hurt thoses who are brainwashed by cars and keep taking it despite having one of the best public transit in the world.

How do people get around Paris when transit employees don't feel like working that day?

They don't, because that would be the whole point of a total shutdown in a coordinated, all-modes transit employees strike. Ask people in London, they have that on a semi-regular basis.

Otherwise, there is no such thing as "transit employees not feeling like working" - thanks to the magic of economy holding a metaphorical gun to the heads of most people. You work whether you feel like it or not.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Let's see: shampoo, rinse, mask, wait 30-60mins, rinse, conditioner, rinse.

Do you think every woman does this regularly without pay? My entire shower takes 8 minutes as a woman.

You're faster than me, a man with short hair :). Rinse, gel, shampoo, rinse, shampoo, rinse - but the warm water also cleans the mind and soothes the soul, so I'm not in that big of a hurry to end one of the best ways to relax and unwind I have. It usually adds up to 10 minutes.

I have a family member, also male with short hair, who used to take 20-30 minute showers every day, driving others in the house insane - but that was the "I'm a first-year medical student, I just learned how many bugs there are on everything, and how ugly diseases they cause; also, have you heard of SARS?" effect. Other symptoms include going though copious amounts of hand disinfectant. Fortunately that went away over time, as they improved their feeling for actual risks.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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But if it worked that way (using a small amount of water over and over to clean) would be gross and unsanitary in this case. One could filter it but that costs a lot of energy and changing a filter weekly on your shower pod would not be very green.

> But if it worked that way (using a small amount of water over and over to clean) would be gross and unsanitary in this case. Have you ever taken a bath?

Yes. Imagine bath water but with the same amount of dirt that would be in 50 gallons in a bath in 5 gallons in this thing. It would be 10x grosser.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Yes, it's taking ages in order to get ride of thoses in of Paris. You need to not hurt thoses who are brainwashed by cars and keep taking it despite having one of the best public transit in the world.

I'm not sure Paris has one of the best public transit in the world or maybe that's just an indicative of the sorry state of public transit worldwide. I mean I wouldn't call world-class a system where just a single failure easily strands 1 million people halfway to their destination and where trains are delayed and cancelled routinely, often without information given to passengers. I'm in favor of more public transpor…

For a lot of destination you can take 2-3 differentes routes.

The rest of your comment try to justify car usage by taking less than 5% of the transit in the city, when there is already exception or infrastructures made for the scenario you described (except elevators and accessibility, thats a big issur in paris intra-muros). Yes, there are a lot of people that use the car when they can not use it, thats still most of the car traffic.

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