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It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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> English overuses it the same amount Not even close! I only have experience in the Gulf but they use "allah" words all the time! "Alhamdulillah" (thank god) is pretty much part of the standard greeting (Pretty much just two people rapid firing a list of phrases at each other simultaneously "peace be with you / and also peace with you / how are you / thank god / how's the family / thank god") and a frequent response…

I had a photoshoot scheduled with a young Somali man. He was late by over an hour, and I had another shoot after so I had to cancel. I rescheduled and told him if he was late for the next shoot I wouldn’t be rescheduling again. He said he wouldn’t be…inshallah. I know it’s part of their language but just as with your cab example it can be a bit annoying as an outsider, as it feels like they’re passing off responsibil…

Inshallah is just a fun and useful word, I've been hearing it a lot lately from people who aren't even Muslims. I think it's on track to become a common loan word in English.

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

#132

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> English overuses it the same amount Not even close! I only have experience in the Gulf but they use "allah" words all the time! "Alhamdulillah" (thank god) is pretty much part of the standard greeting (Pretty much just two people rapid firing a list of phrases at each other simultaneously "peace be with you / and also peace with you / how are you / thank god / how's the family / thank god") and a frequent response…

I had a photoshoot scheduled with a young Somali man. He was late by over an hour, and I had another shoot after so I had to cancel. I rescheduled and told him if he was late for the next shoot I wouldn’t be rescheduling again. He said he wouldn’t be…inshallah. I know it’s part of their language but just as with your cab example it can be a bit annoying as an outsider, as it feels like they’re passing off responsibil…

Sounds similar to "mei ban fa" (it can't be helped) in Chinese. The words suggest something is impossible but in practice it generally just means, nope, don't feel like it.

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> English overuses it the same amount Not even close! I only have experience in the Gulf but they use "allah" words all the time! "Alhamdulillah" (thank god) is pretty much part of the standard greeting (Pretty much just two people rapid firing a list of phrases at each other simultaneously "peace be with you / and also peace with you / how are you / thank god / how's the family / thank god") and a frequent response…

I had a photoshoot scheduled with a young Somali man. He was late by over an hour, and I had another shoot after so I had to cancel. I rescheduled and told him if he was late for the next shoot I wouldn’t be rescheduling again. He said he wouldn’t be…inshallah. I know it’s part of their language but just as with your cab example it can be a bit annoying as an outsider, as it feels like they’re passing off responsibil…

> they’re passing off responsibility

On the other hand. For example in Kiswahili "Shauri ya Mungo" (God's business). Perhaps not exactly the same, but sufficiently similar to be interesting: that some things are in fact beyond human capability and comprehension has largely disappeared from the English language (or any language from predominately secular countries).

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a photoshoot scheduled with a young Somali man. He was late by over an hour, and I had another shoot after so I had to cancel. I rescheduled and told him if he was late for the next shoot I wouldn’t be rescheduling again. He said he wouldn’t be…inshallah. I know it’s part of their language but just as with your cab example it can be a bit annoying as an outsider, as it feels like they’re passing off responsibil…

Inshallah is just a fun and useful word, I've been hearing it a lot lately from people who aren't even Muslims. I think it's on track to become a common loan word in English.

It already is one from Arabic to Spanish (ojalá for "I hope" or "hopefully")

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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post #128

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That's not quite accurate. There are a few things that the Standard Model doesn't exactly account for--neutrino oscillation being the most famous. The trouble is that these issues aren't really big enough to suggest new physics, and the experiments aren't good enough to really suggest how much patching actually needs to be done.

Yes, there are some deviations. But minor adjustments to the Standard Model handles those. And don't really point in the direction of a better theory. More relevantly to the previous question, I'm not aware of any of those which affect interactions with the strong or weak nuclear forces.

Neutrinos predominantly work via the weak interaction, don't they?

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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Please spare me that "war" simile, it only shows you're an American who can not write too well. It’s understandable that you don’t like the desensitization of war that comes from our over usage of the word. Perhaps it speaks to a defect in American culture but this is how we communicate in our language. I think Arabic has too much emphasis on allah related phrases. But that’s how they speak. Nothing I can do about it…

> [war] is how we communicate in our language. Is it? Or is it how marketing communicates? (Which apparently is then spilling into how you communicate?)

One influences the other. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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I choked on this part: > The discussion recalls a messy, largely forgotten episode from the dawn of the quantum era. In 1905, Einstein interpreted experimental data to mean that light is “quantized,” coming in discrete particles now called photons. Others, including Niels Bohr and Max Planck, thought that the classical, wave nature of light might still be saved. [...] Most physicists presume that everything in the wo…

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Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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I choked on this part: > The discussion recalls a messy, largely forgotten episode from the dawn of the quantum era. In 1905, Einstein interpreted experimental data to mean that light is “quantized,” coming in discrete particles now called photons. Others, including Niels Bohr and Max Planck, thought that the classical, wave nature of light might still be saved. [...] Most physicists presume that everything in the wo…

> Please spare me that "war" simile +1, normalizing "war" as a synonym of effort is pretty much orwellian.

That is part of the original etymology of the word. [1]

> late Old English wyrre, werre "large-scale military conflict," from Old North French werre "war" (Old French guerre "difficulty, dispute; hostility; fight, combat, war;" Modern French guerre),

Note the old French part including difficulty dispute, hostility and fight.

[1] https://www.etymonline.com/word/war

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

#139

I choked on this part: > The discussion recalls a messy, largely forgotten episode from the dawn of the quantum era. In 1905, Einstein interpreted experimental data to mean that light is “quantized,” coming in discrete particles now called photons. Others, including Niels Bohr and Max Planck, thought that the classical, wave nature of light might still be saved. [...] Most physicists presume that everything in the wo…

The "forgotten" part isn't Einstein's proposal, but the semiclassical suggestion of how to avoid it. Have you seen that part commonly retold? I haven't.

Re: It might be possible to detect gravitons after all

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> Please spare me that "war" simile +1, normalizing "war" as a synonym of effort is pretty much orwellian.

That is part of the original etymology of the word. [1] > late Old English wyrre, werre "large-scale military conflict," from Old North French werre "war" (Old French guerre "difficulty, dispute; hostility; fight, combat, war;" Modern French guerre), Note the old French part including difficulty dispute, hostility and fight. [1] https://www.etymonline.com/word/war

Wow, words changing meaning over time. Imagine that. The internet would lead me to believe that’s something horrific that must not be allowed.
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