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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by orangecat » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:05 PM UTC

aqme28 wrote: post #98

piinbinary wrote: post #11

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

Are you expected to replace your screen often? I don't think I upgrade and replace either one much faster than the other. Usually get a new monitor and a new PC every 4 or so years.

I made the mistake of getting a 27" iMac in 2014. The 5k display is still great by today's standards but the internals are obsolete.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by mjlee » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:05 PM UTC

piinbinary wrote: post #11

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

Especially egregious when you consider older iMacs could be used as external displays - https://support.apple.com/en-gb/105126

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by wtallis » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:05 PM UTC

DeathArrow wrote: post #116

minimaxir wrote: post #3

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

> 16GB base RAM, they finally did it. I've paid €200 for 128GB RAM in my PC. How much does Apple charge for 128GB of memory?

€200 for 128GB as an aftermarket upgrade, or €200 upcharge for 128GB from a system OEM?

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by ttul » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:05 PM UTC

Note: The 24” iMac is never going to be the platform of choice for HackerNews readers.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by simonw » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #78

Question. Is this "Apple Intelligence" phoning home all the time?

No. It's mostly on device, and the not on-device stuff uses incredibly clever computer science to run code in an auditable, non trackable way on cloud hardware. It's called "Private Cloud Compute" https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by delfinom » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

Mmm, in an era where monitors no longer need large bezels, apple sure decided to keep the neck fat on the iMac which to me makes it quite ugly.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by graeme » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

The iMacs very much aren't their main seller. A couple of key demographics use it though:

* Families with a shared computer in a common room. Super simple to setup, no fiddling, low price. In the video Apple showcased this use case. My parents have an M3 imac and it works great. They had their last iMac for ten years.

* Businesses buy these for reception areas and customers see the Apple logo on the back. Easy solution for a business with no IT department, great marketing for Apple.

Apple will probably always sell an iMac option as long as businesses buy and display them.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by martin_a » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

I don't see the point in them anymore, too. 24" screen size is not interesting and I can't get more displays that do look like the first one. Will always look strangely mixed in environments.

edit: ok, others pointed out possible use cases. was thinking about the reception one, too.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by jeffbee » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #3

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Why does the Magic Mouse still exist, though? If you have an iMac with the Magic Mouse, you own the only Apple device without the complete suite of multitouch gestures. It's weird that they still make the Magic Touchpad a paid option when it seems like a core part of the offering.