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Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Post by some_random »

bluGill wrote: post #38
antihero wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If untrained people try to defend themselves with a pocket knife they are more likely to hurt themselves.

Even a trained person. A pocket knife is better than nothing, but not by much. Meanwhile a knife is a useful tool in a lot of situations.

That's just not true, knives are quite effective self defense tools that allow otherwise physically weaker individuals to inflict significant harm on attackers without much of any additional risk. I know that in the movies this isn't true, but that's just not a reflection of reality.

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Post by tomjen3 »

changing1999 wrote: post #75
ajmurmann wrote: post #69

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Would it make more sense to properly tax those negative externalities instead of having some authority just picking one use case as "bad"?

How would an additional tax address this? Paying more would hardly reduce usage, and definitely won't incentivize users to dispose of vape pens more responsibly.

It could pay for additional people to clean up the streets, or you have a deposit on them, so that they be returned rather than littered.

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Post by CharlieDigital »

bloopernova wrote: post #108
jazzyjackson wrote: post #101

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I like the idea of a deposit but you still need someone to accept the waste - point of a deposit is you get it back, so how do you fund the responsible disposal?

If I were, say, a US state government, I'd fund the recycling just to keep them from polluting. I don't think it's a case of trying to break even, just to reduce the harm done by throwaway electronics/batteries.

That's feels like it might be a hard sell with taxpayers in this day and age (unfortunately).

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

cyberpunk wrote: post #42
prophesi wrote: post #22

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I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but in the USA it's also next to impossible to find a disposable vape that doesn't have an insanely high amount of nicotine. If anyone is unfortunate enough to try a disposable as their introduction to nicotine, they'll be as hooked as a pack a day smoker in no time. I switched to vaping after the pandemic and saw in realtime vapes come out with higher and higher nicotine levels, rep…

I switched to vapes for a while and genuinely my lung health was worse than smoking. In the end it was Allen Carr’s book that got me off them, and it was surprisingly easy. The author died in 2006 so I wouldn’t even feel too bad about pirating it, I’m quite sure he wouldn’t mind.

One of the things that stuck with me about that book was the author instructing you not to give it to someone else once you'd quit and to get them to buy their own copy so he may well mind it being pirated from the the grave.

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Post by mrguyorama »

frou_dh wrote: post #21

Aside from the health/chemical-pollution aspects, these things have simply resulted in such ugliness because I see them strewn all over the ground every day. Apparently "disposable" means "throw on the ground".

The overlap between "Uses nicotine" and "Just throws plastic shit on the ground" is astonishing. You do not see nearly as much littering from weed smokers for example.

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Post by zimpenfish »

Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #88
bloopernova wrote: post #72

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I figured any disposable vape would have its batteries glued in. How straightforward a task is it to remove the battery? What do the batteries generally look like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N65DpT2nqEI The cells are generally just "push fit", maybe with some kapton tape or foam to give them a snug fit. As for taking the vapes apart, A pair of pliers and some brute force is typically all that is needed to get them apart. Cell shape is either cylindrical or rectangular, depends on the vapes shape really. You get the knack of remembering/guessing what the shape will be just…

Came here to mention Big Clive's salvaging. Haven't tried it myself yet - the feral youth around here tend to be more whippet oriented than vaping, sadly.

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Post by 93po »

noja wrote: post #71
postepowanieadm wrote: post #20

That's simply amazing: we fight with disposable plastic straws but we had no problem with single use electronics and battery. Insane.

What are straws for anyway?

in the US most people drink stuff with a ton of ice. it stops the ice from hitting your mouth/teeth when you drink. it's also easier to drink in a moving vehicle with a straw and not risk stuff splashing all over you

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Post by kelseyfrog »

bowsamic wrote: post #139
kelseyfrog wrote: post #14

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Correct. What do you think I wrote?

If it’s banned for everyone, how would adults be able to buy them for children?

I was describing the current state. Children cannot currently buy vapes; adults can. However, it still ends up in the hands of children.
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