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The TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people

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Re: The TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people

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Post by smittywerben »

raydev wrote: post #124
smittywerben wrote: post #86

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This won't be popular opinion but I think the tech industry is out of control with targeting kids. Like seriously my job in the banking industry was more ethical than this.

> This won't be popular opinion but I think the tech industry is out of control with targeting kids Seems like the majority opinion every time the subject comes up on HN, and X, and on Facebook, and in discussions with people in real life and so on.

No, I want enforcement of 2252a and sending website operators to prison. I've never heard my opinion because if that was the majority opinion, why hasn't it happened?

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Post by tessierashpool9 »

filoleg wrote: post #122
tessierashpool9 wrote: post #103

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> it doesn't seem to be the screen that's the problem that is not a surprise really. a happy child will prefer real life interaction while an unhappy child will try to hide somewhere.

Ouch, that kinda hit the nail on the head of why I personally preferred the screen when I was growing up in late 90s and 00s. Didn’t even think of it in those terms until now, but yeah, it tracks nearly perfectly. Even as an adult, I noticed that my (non-productive) screen consumption spikes during periods of high stress and turmoil.

In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Maté might be even more insightful then for you. Healthy and happy people don't take drugs or engage in excessive dopamine-based activities. This is not a trivial insight as it explains why only some people actually get hooked on drugs like Heroin as opposed to everybody which is what most people assume.

Re: The TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people

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Post by lukev »

t-3 wrote: post #51
lukev wrote: post #34

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It's very easy to say this if you're not a parent. Social media does some harm. Being socially excluded does far _more_ harm. Which starts to happen in middle school. So as a parent, you have three choices: 1. Deal with the emotional consequences of your kid being systematically excluded and having few/no friends. 2. Construct an alternative school/community with like-minded parents and kids. 3. Just give them the da…

Your kid won't have no friends if they have no phone. They will be in school with other kids for 8 hours a day, no phone required for interaction. Pretty much all messaging apps work from computers as well if they need to talk to friends from home and you don't have a landline.

I'm not speculating here, I am telling you how it works.

Phones ARE banned from school and the kids DO socialize in person there.

But then they all get home and stay in touch. Some have phones, some have tablets, some just their school-issued laptops. But they're constantly talking, 1:1, in various overlapping group chats. They organize getting together in the neighborhood or meeting up elsewhere over the weekend. It's where a lot of the drama happens (which isn't great.)

If you prevent your kid from accessing this communication layer, it will 100% affect their social life.

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Post by gitaarik »

nkrisc wrote: post #110
gitaarik wrote: post #91

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So either your kid gets infected by other kids, or it becomes a social outcast. Seems both are equality bad, I would even lean towards saying social outcast is less worse than being infected.

Believe it or not, there’s a lot between those two extremes. Also I never said I’ll never let him use the internet, but it’s not for 7 year olds.

Sorry I was just being sarcastic, my point was exactly that it's not that black and white ;)

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Post by harambae »

skylurk wrote: post #93
smittywerben wrote: post #86

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This won't be popular opinion but I think the tech industry is out of control with targeting kids. Like seriously my job in the banking industry was more ethical than this.

In what way is the banking industry a low bar for ethics?

I assume he meant banking doesn't carry that many risks to children.

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Post by bubaumba »

AlexandrB wrote: post #73
bubaumba wrote: post #33

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sure, just don't forget, that will be the kid who chooses the shelter...

It's probably exactly backwards. Social media breeds narcissism.

I haven't seen any research on this matter. How modern kids compare to their (grand) parents. Likely with free food for everyone and legal drugs more are choosing jobless path. One way is sort of a job. For example 'influencer', most of whom don't make enough for living, but hope one day..
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