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Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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post #16

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https://x.com/WordPress/status/1845180576531468375 > Hey @WordPress. Are there any further plugins that we can expect to be forked? > There are no others we're aware of at this time, but you are welcome to suggest some.

I thought that was satire, but they actually asked for suggestions…

Search for Mullenweg's comment, here: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2024/10/13/fields-api-team-s...

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

#132
post #72

After all this drama, it feels like WordPress has reached its peak and is now starting its decline. Of course, it will take years, and the process may be volatile, but the overall trend will likely be downward.

AFAIK there is just no other free and open source CMS with a similarly mature ecosystem, which could replace WordPress. So many websites, companies and agencies are built on WordPress, it would take a decade to move away. The only possibility I can think of is a fork.

The community is just one fork away from a plug-compatible replacement.

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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Well, they're literally getting sued with one of the counts being computer fraud so it's going to end up in front of a judge at some point.

I doubt the case will make it to trial. I think they'll be settling in the next few weeks. But I did double check, and you're right of course, the complaint does allege they violated the CFAA when they cut off access from WP.org infrastructure.

Matt isn't going to settle. Automattic while Matt is in charge is not going to settle. And the lawsuit will be cheaper for WP Engine to take to trial than giving in to the demands. And considering what Matt has done the past few weeks, I really can't see WP Engine being in the mood to settle anytime soon.

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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post #115
post #72

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AFAIK there is just no other free and open source CMS with a similarly mature ecosystem, which could replace WordPress. So many websites, companies and agencies are built on WordPress, it would take a decade to move away. The only possibility I can think of is a fork.

Developers are the core of any system. Once they move on, it's game over. What Wordpress.org did sent a clear message to any developer who makes a living on WordPress or a plugin - we can take your plugin and revenue any time we want. No rational person will continue to invest their time in such an ecosystem, no matter its "maturity". It clearly is not mature enough. I would keep an eye on PayloadCMS or Ghost. Those,…

There are many good CMSs, no doubt. But Wordpress is the de-facto standard, every theme has first class support for Wordpress. And every thing on the web has a Wordpress plugin.

It’s not rocket science to learn another CMS, but many people are deeply invested into Wordpress and it would take a lot of money and effort to switch.

Even if the popularity of Wordpress decreases now, Wordpress (or a compatible fork) are going to be relevant for at least another decade.

The Wordpress license GPL/Copyleft makes forks rather easy.

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

#136
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK there is just no other free and open source CMS with a similarly mature ecosystem, which could replace WordPress. So many websites, companies and agencies are built on WordPress, it would take a decade to move away. The only possibility I can think of is a fork.

The community is just one fork away from a plug-compatible replacement.

Exactly. I don’t know if I’m missing something, but a fork is probably possible just by replacing the trademarked „Wordpress“ inside all translations, and a few minor code changes. Variable names/etc inside the code with „wp“ or „Wordpress“ probably don’t violate the trademark.

I would estimate a proper fork could be done by 3 developers within two weeks, but whoever is doing it, should get some backing by a company (probably also easy) and some legal consulting.

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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I doubt the case will make it to trial. I think they'll be settling in the next few weeks. But I did double check, and you're right of course, the complaint does allege they violated the CFAA when they cut off access from WP.org infrastructure.

Matt isn't going to settle. Automattic while Matt is in charge is not going to settle. And the lawsuit will be cheaper for WP Engine to take to trial than giving in to the demands. And considering what Matt has done the past few weeks, I really can't see WP Engine being in the mood to settle anytime soon.

We'll have to see. I could certainly be wrong. But I doubt WP Engine has qualms about settling (given the right terms) and I imagine Mullenweg will start receiving big invoices for lawyers that tell him they aren't confident they'll win at trial. He may not have much of a choice.

But anything can happen. If 12 weeks passes and the suit is ongoing, then I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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post #12

The official wp announcement of this said “we don’t plan on doing this to other plugins.” lol. anyone think they pinky promise? More like: build on Wordpress and unless you kiss the ring some guy named Matt will disappear your business.

Exactly. He also ends his post with a "separate" boast about poaching one if WPE's engineers. It's so obvious that this is just a giant FU to WPE and nothing else

https://wordpress.org/news/2024/10/secure-custom-fields/

Re: ACF Plugin no longer available on WordPress.org

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Matt isn't going to settle. Automattic while Matt is in charge is not going to settle. And the lawsuit will be cheaper for WP Engine to take to trial than giving in to the demands. And considering what Matt has done the past few weeks, I really can't see WP Engine being in the mood to settle anytime soon.

We'll have to see. I could certainly be wrong. But I doubt WP Engine has qualms about settling (given the right terms) and I imagine Mullenweg will start receiving big invoices for lawyers that tell him they aren't confident they'll win at trial. He may not have much of a choice. But anything can happen. If 12 weeks passes and the suit is ongoing, then I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

This won't be going to trial in 12 weeks. The discovery alone is going to be massive considering what has happened.

I'm pretty sure Matt has been dropped by one law firm, he's also had the chef lawyer for Automattic accept a buyout which I think is fair to assume this drama is the reason. Automattic's current in house lawyer commented on here that lawyers can't control their clients. Which I think is fair to assume that Matt is ignoring legal advice. Matt already knows this lawsuit is going to cost millions. And he's pouring petrol on it.

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